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DHS Explains Plans To Buy 1.6B Rounds Of Ammo: We're Buying in Bulk to 'Significantly Lower Costs'
cnsnews.com ^ | 4-2-2013 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams

Posted on 04/02/2013 4:03:00 PM PDT by plain talk

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has responded to a letter dated November 13, 2012 from Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) regarding the agency's ammunition purchases. Sen. Coburn published the response on the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs website yesterday, April 1, 2013.

The response, dated February 4, 2013, says that DHS buys ammunition in bulk to "significantly lower costs."

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To: plain talk

I believe every word the government says...

They are your friend..

They are here to help you and save you money.


81 posted on 04/02/2013 7:55:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: plain talk
but if YOU buy 1000 you are suspected terrorist!!!
82 posted on 04/02/2013 7:56:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: plain talk

RULE 1. In the field you salvage every weapon,and bullets you can from your enemy and trade with others so that you can keep a good supply.

RULE 2. Make raids for the single purpose of making them waste their ammo while you locate their supply and either take it or blow it up.

RULE 3. Let them use their weapons on full automatic while you hide and shoot only when you have a specific target lined up and YOU only use single rounds. This also makes it harder for them to locate you.

A person shooting full automatic is always targeted by the enemy because they are an easy target to locate. A single shot is EXTREMELY hard to locate especially if there enough of you randomly shooting and moving location after each shot.

Jungle Survival Book 101. Lived it and survived it. IT WORKS.

You have to be smarter and more confident then your enemy.


83 posted on 04/02/2013 8:02:39 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: plain talk

It took them 3 months to reply to his request? /rhetorical


84 posted on 04/02/2013 8:06:43 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Strategerist

I’ve read your posts explaining this, and I think your explanation is very credible.


85 posted on 04/02/2013 8:07:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Boogieman
Congratulations! Your response was the only sane one so far.

The rest of these kooks apparently didn't even click on the live link to see the actual numbers for the past 3 years. Not a one of them noted that DHS ammo purchase have actually declined the past three years. Yes, DECLINED.

Anyone know of a book that could improve my ability to deal with stupid people? Stupid is as stupid does. These folks don't have a clue about what they don't know.

86 posted on 04/02/2013 8:16:18 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: plain talk

“To significantly lower costs”

Ah generally lak a kiss when mah peter’s gettin’ pulled,
but that’s OK Janet, you can just blow me ....
a kiss.


87 posted on 04/02/2013 8:20:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: plain talk

But isn’t that terribly dangerous?

How do we know the DHS won’t start shooting up schools or movie theaters?


88 posted on 04/02/2013 8:39:48 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Travis McGee

If the goal was to save money, they’d save more if they bought nothing. Don’t they know we’re broke?


89 posted on 04/02/2013 8:45:02 PM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: Strategerist

“As many people have pointed out, there are shortages for rounds that DHS has not purchased or solicited for at all.”

But they all have brass, lead, primers and factory time in common.


90 posted on 04/02/2013 8:54:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: plain talk

If you had a weapon with a cyclic rate of 550 rounds per minute and you fired it continuously it would take you over 332 years to fire 1.6 billion rounds. Powder does not last that long and the rounds are subject to other forms of deterioration.


91 posted on 04/02/2013 8:59:40 PM PDT by rey
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To: plain talk
Maybe they need it for their false flag op they are planning. Just to make it look good.
92 posted on 04/02/2013 9:02:24 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! Hoorah, Arizona!)
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To: rey

So much misdirection! ... The fedzilla is buying a multi year supply of ammo (and nearly everything else it will need) because they know there is coming a date certain beyond which they will not be able to be resupplied while the collapsed nation rots under starvation, disease, and mayhem, reducing the population to the ‘manageable’ levels called for in agenda 21.


93 posted on 04/02/2013 9:04:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Depends on what they’re practicing on...


94 posted on 04/02/2013 9:05:42 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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To: Travis McGee

Hey McGee, how come this massive demand for billions of rounds?

How many shootouts has DHS been involved in?

5000? 500? 5?

0?


95 posted on 04/02/2013 9:05:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cobra64

Tried to buy any “bullets” lately?


96 posted on 04/02/2013 9:10:01 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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To: Halls

When the planned orchestrated collapse comes, the oligarchs with their little army will retreat to their ‘island fortresses’ (like the new Denver airport underground complex). The security patrols will not hesitate to fire on approaching citizenry because the security forces will be locked in with the food and ammo and scum and villainy, so they have ‘a dog in that fight’.


97 posted on 04/02/2013 9:10:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Buffalo Head
Not a one of them noted that DHS ammo purchase have actually declined the past three years. Yes, DECLINED.

It wasn't mentioned because it's irrelevant. The 360,000,000 rounds purchased between 2010-2012 and the year-over-year order totals during that period aren't the issue.

The purchase order in question is for 2013-2017. And it's for a nearly threefold increase in that number.

If that doesn't concern you in the least, good for you. The rest of us kooks see evil on parade in Washington DC and have every reason in the world to assume the worst.

98 posted on 04/02/2013 9:21:21 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Strategerist
How do you know DHS ammo purchases have decreased over the last couple of years? Because a statement released by the DHS says so? Even if you are correct that the purchaes have been decreasing and this is more panic hyperbole, it is nevertheless real, regardless of purchases. Real or not, the people believe it is and that accounts for the panic buying (as you pointed out). But just because actions are based on irrational actions or due to the law of unintended consequences, does not make them any less real. Panic buying of ammo still depletes the ammo supply, regardless of the true cause of that panic.
99 posted on 04/02/2013 9:30:02 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT

If anything , the numbers from the last three years should raise even more concern.

360 million rounds from 2010-2012.

1.6 billion rounds from 2013-2016 or 2017.

That’s at least three times as much, per annum.


100 posted on 04/02/2013 9:36:30 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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