Staggering Number of Bones of Extinct Ice Age Animals Found in Mexico

Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site

More than hundred bones of animals, now extinct, that thrived over 10,000 years ago (the late Pleistocene period), have been discovered in the state of Hidalgo, in central-eastern Mexico.

Remains of megafauna that lived more than 10,000 years ago in what is now the Valley of Mexico. (Photo: INAH)

The discovery was made at a construction site of a wastewater treatment plant near the river El Salto in the city of Atotonilco de Tula, archaeologists at the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), announced in a statement.

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The remains include bones of several extinct animals including mastodons and mammoths among others, which were found scattered at different distances within an area of approximately 100 hectares, and as deep as 10 metres.

“The skeletal remains of extinct animals, some of which measure up to 1.60 m, corresponding to ribs, vertebrae, skulls, jaws, defences (fangs), horns and shells, of species such as glyptodont, mastodon, mammoth, camel, horse, deer, bison and possibly other as yet unidentified,” INAH archaeologists said, adding that it took about five months of excavation work to dig out all the remains.

Though remains of mammoths have been found in the past as well, archaeologists are dubbing it as the biggest discovery of the Ice Age’s large-bodied animal remains ever made in the region.

“This is the most numerous and varied discovery of remains of extinct megafauna, found together, registered so far in the Basin of Mexico” INAH archaeologist Alicia Bonfil Olivera said.

Human Bones

Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site but scientific investigation for confirmation is yet to be done. However, two stone tools found in the excavation suggest that the bones may be of a human.

“The characteristics and size of some bones indicate that it is human limbs, which is not surprising because it is known that man lived in central Mexico at that time.”

The sediments and sand layer in which the faunal remains were found further indicate that the animals and possibly humans probably were trapped in landslides and got buried in the debris.

The planet is like a spinning top in some respects. If the spin poles shifted 90 degrees, the tropics would suddenly be in the Northernmost regions, etc. The plates would have been violently shaken and perhaps rippled like shaking a rug to loosen the dirt, but is a much more chaotic pattern since the plates are of different shapes and have boundaries with more than one other plate.

Question then becomes 'what could cause the top to tip so?' Would a passing massive body generate sufficient gravitational disturbance? nad might there have been accompanying 'electrical discharge exchanges' when this body passed close enough to the Earth in rushing through the solar system, and might there be other clues on other planets, like a huge gouge across the surface of perhaps Mars and perhaps the demiose of an entire watery planet in the Martian orbit with Mars a surviving moon of the other water world? ... Oh my, when we need Tom Van Flandern ...

represents the innovation of the practice of drawing lots...

Not for the chef, it doesn't. Staff may draw lots, but I'm not going out there with a dying, thrashing, herbivorous megafauna kinda critter with broken spears sticking out of it..

Staff needs to bring back neatly packaged 20 lb cleaned chunks of meat.

I've got a stack of nice red shirts for the new guys.

/johnny

I think my point was to illustrate the spatial and logistical impracticality of the admittedly charming tale about Noah and his ark...

There are those who believe there have been any number of global or regional floods, some in historic times even. Evidence is all over the planet for such. Won't find it in any of the "prestigious" journals though. Doesn't fit the accepted paradigm of "gradualism".

Darwin himself was flummoxed by the calamatous nature of upheaval he found all over the world. This was ignored if favor of steady-state planet where nothing untoward ever happens. Imagine that.

I'm so glad to hear you noticed...and the same applies to Worlds in Collision. I learn something more each time I read it. Ages in Chaos is also full of surprises. The three volumes have seen better days, paperbacks that are falling apart - but nothing would persuade me to part with them, Velikovsky lives in every word:

The profusion of bones in Agate Springs Quarry may be judged by a single block now in the American Museum of Natural History in New York, this block contains about a hundred bones to the square foot. There is no way of explaining an aggregation of fossils as a natural death retreat of animals of various genera. E.I.U. PAGE 67

There is no way of explaining an aggregation of fossils as a natural death retreat of animals of various genera. E.I.U. PAGE 67

Ever see the video of Mt. St. Helens and the crap that came down the rivers and stacked up? And how fast it was? There are humans buried in that mud that haven't been dug out. We even know their names.

That seems like a valid mechanism.

/johnny

I have wondered about this quite a bit. Analysis of the Carolina bays SEEMS to indicate that they are not all oriented exactly the same, but collectively point at an area a bit to the southwest side of Lake Superior.

So we get to imagining that an asteroid or cometary impact in that area threw up billions of tons of debris, simultaneously wiping out huge numbers of the large megafauna at that time - the mammoths, the NA Rhinos, etc.

So where did it hit?

Where’s the crater?

Well, the ice was probably two miles thick where it hit!

The crater WAS there!

Then it melted!

Hey, it’s possible!

You may want to familiarize yourself with J Harlan Bretz.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Lake Missoula is/was small potatoes in the overall scheme of things. If memory serves, he had no small amount of difficulty in getting his work recognized before it was finally "published". After all, he was committing heresy against the conventional wisdom even then.

And without concept of tectonics, it's no wonder.

Again, if memory serves, plate tectonics; that is, the GRADUAL sliding of the plates over and under each other was adopted as an explanation for mountain building etc over gazillions of years. Sharp peaks and ridges would have long ago been reduced to rubble under the theory. Plate tectonics can't explain many of the geologic features we see today without sudden and massive movement -- which the accepted paradigm doesn't allow.

over gazillions of years

I'm unfamiliar with that particular scientific term.

Recent measurement of recent events show uplifts of 10s of meters at a time.

If you want to argue your point, you shouldn't be confined to stuff printed in the 19th and 20th century on dead trees.

Study to show thyself approved... &ct...

I read from texts dating back to the 16th century (everybody needs a hobby), and I don't take their word for mal aria.

/johnny

I can tell I'm going to regret showing up here, it's one of THOSE topics...

but you might enjoy this little example of a mountain building theory (I like)

MOUNTAIN BUILDING VIDEO

And, as an afterthought -

My favourite mountain in Spitzbergen.

Small potatoes? Hardly. It certainly superficially qualifies as a catastrophic event. The primary reason for the lack of support for Bretz wasn't that he lacked evidence - it was all around - the problem was that he hadn't defined a mechanism to account for it, i.e. where did all that water come from?

And while to the uninitiated tectonics may seem gradual, there are some pretty significant and immediate outcomes. There's a spot fairly close to my home where relative vertical movement along a plate boundary resulted in a single event 50 foot displacement - imagine a five story building popping out of the ground in a matter of seconds - or better yet, a Ultra-Plinian eruption, nothing gradual about that. As to the “sharp peaks and ridges”, these are the product of a combination of uplift along colliding plates, isostatic rebound, weathering, and mass wasting.

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