Posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
NEW YORK – Immigration documents filed in 1961 cast doubt on whether Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was the president’s biological father and indicate federal officers were prepared to investigate whether the Kenyan was married to the president’s mother, Ann Dunham.
Aside from the image of a long-form birth certificate released by the White House April 27, 2011 – a document Sheriff Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation has found probable cause to believe is a forgery – what documentary evidence is there that Barack Obama was the biological father?
In the third sentence of the third paragraph, the Dahlin memo adds the detail that McCabe reported the Kenyan had gotten Dunham pregnant, a fact that would have been consistent with the marriage being legitimate.
Except, Dahlin adds, McCabe reported that the Kenyan and Dunham did not live together and Obama Sr. and Dunham were contemplating giving the baby away to the Salvation Army.
The facts suggest a sham marriage arranged for immigration purposes only: a supposedly married couple who do not live together, a “husband” with multiple girl friends on the side and a baby neither parent seems determined to raise.
The decision to give away the baby to the Salvation Army after Obama Sr. “got” Dunham pregnant must have caused the INS to wonder precisely what kind of relationship existed between the two.
The memo indicates Obama Sr. might have been testing the waters to see what impact claiming a U.S. citizen wife and a U.S. citizen child would have on the INS. Officials would question whether he was the natural father or if he was merely the “stand-in” father, covering up an embarrassing situation.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
“With all due respect, I don't think that is an abstract. That form wasn't in use until ten or fifteen years later—they didn't have it; it isn't what they used in the 1960’s. That transcript is just a fake—prepared by someone who had access to later transcripts from the 80’s to use as a form. It is fake.”
135 posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:52:57 AM by David
Ah, so I assume this means that the U of HI did offer a course in Russian in 1960, then. Now if only a list of students could be unearthed.
Well, THAT information comes as a surprise, it certainly wasn’t available when we searched for it high and low duriing the two long threads...iirc. Many thanks.
I was trying to think of an alternative regarding the method...of course it's fake, it's as fake as the recent birth certificate, but that's an 'abstract' (AS THE WORD APPEARS STAMPED ON THE BACK OF THE BC) in the sense that what we see is a BC form relative to the period as a background, and picked up information from a number of existing sources (such as a bc for the original BHO2 born within the date range of the public index 1960-1965) on which the father's RACE may have been shown as NEGRO-AFRICAN for example, and 'they' simply dropped the NEGRO. I say that because one of the layers exposed on the recent fake shows the name of the mother as ANN D.....and another layer shows UNHAM added to create DUNHAM. So ABSTRACT in the context in which I used the word means FAKE, just like the birth certificate.
http://library.manoa.hawaii.edu/departments/russian/?arc_ewp
Ella Wiswell Papers
Founder of the Russian language program at the University of Hawaii, where she taught from 1951 to 1968.
That doesn't affect US citizenship.
Thank you. I gather perhaps this information wasn’t readily available during various searches on the Long Threads started in July 2008. So we now have confirmation there were Russian Classes at the U of HI.
And if we had a genuine transcript belonging to Stanley Ann Dunham that showed she attended Russian Classes after her ‘enrollment Fall 1960’ we would perhaps know who attended the classes with the kenyan.
However, skeptic that I am, I would expect any transcript to show the student as ANN S OBAMA who was living at the birth announcement address, a house shared by Mr & Mrs Dunham and the Pratt family, while Stanley Armour worked for PRATT FURNITURE.
So what you need to do now is show us that ANN S OBAMA was STANLEY ANN DUNHAM.
Her husband, John Embree, was heavily surveilled by the FBI for presumed Communist ties. You can read more about him in Threatening Anthropology: McCarthyism and the FBI’s Surveillance of Activist Anthropologists. Embree died in an accident in 1950.
Of course not everybody who was investigated by the FBI was a Communist -- and just about anybody who studied anthropology in the 1930s was likely to be left-wing -- but it's interesting.
“With all due respect, I don't think that is an abstract. That form wasn't in use until ten or fifteen years later—they didn't have it; it isn't what they used in the 1960’s. That transcript is just a fake—prepared by someone who had access to later transcripts from the 80’s to use as a form. It is fake.”
I can't imagine which word in #135 you would think in any way stipulates or even implies that any single word in the purported transcript is "actually genuine" in any respect.
On its face, it looks to me as though someone in administration at the U of W was tasked to create a transcript for Stanley that appeared regular on its face; they had access to old style transcripts but only back to the 80's; they assumed as you do that no one will be left around that would recognize that the form is not a 1960's form; probably the person in charge of the fake didn't even know what a 1960's transcript ought to look like.
No, I don't see anything about this one that looks like reliable factual data for any purpose. It is just another fraud perpetrated by Zero's supporters.
“That doesn’t affect US citizenship.”
And.....
I never said it did.
But, without a doubt she had to maintain dual citizenship - and possibly hide that fact in Indonesia. This would explain the removal of Obama from her US passport in 1967. That is when Obama likely received his Indonesian passport.
In Indonesia this entire family was 100% Indonesian. Upon returning to the US in 1971 - without his acknowledged parents as guardians - he needed a way to execute a termination of Indonesian hooks. Enter legal birth father - Obama Senior.
As legal birth father he had the ability to terminate Obama II’s Indonesian ties. Thus making Obama II 100% Kenyan at that point. And hence why Obama Senior was hero to the young Obama and why young Obama then had direct ties to Kenya. He would then have been a bona-fid citizen of Kenya without ever having been there (or born there).
Those are notations indicating when and where UW sent the transcript. The first few are for UHawaii, but I can't quite make out the last two. Presumably some form of employment. If we could make those out, it might be interesting.
An academic "center" need not have its own exclusive physical building in order to exist. It can share office space in another academic department, use random classrooms, etc.
you’re wasting your breath, the East West Centre only came into the discussion way back in 2008 on the long threads because we couldn’t find any record of a Russian Class or teachers of Russian at the university itself, so the good little obots popped in to tell us that the Russian Classes took place at the East-West Centre.
Now that we know there WERE two Russian teachers at the U of HI - you can stop telling us about an Academic Centre chartered by the UN...it isn’t, and never was, relative...IF present information is correct, that is.
Ah, you puzzled that one out, eh? Good for you. The East-West Center was/is also at UHawaii. Having the Russian classes under the rubric of the former is not mutually inconsistent with it being at the latter; in fact it's a requirement.
you can stop telling us about an Academic Centre chartered by the UN
That's the US State Department, not the UN. Try to pay attention.
Can you read? The information on the two Russian teachers and the so called Russian Classes at the U of HI was NOT AVAILABLE in 2008 when we attemtped to research the topic.
The East West Centre was thrown into the ‘conversation’ to provide a cover for something we could not find. The information was accepted but never confirmed.
Now it has been pointed out the classes did exist at the U of HI. The teachers have been named.
And you are STILL covering with an East-West connection?
What-ever for? Is there something perhaps not quite right with the current version?
The East-West Center was/is also part of UHawaii. Having the Russian classes under the rubric of the former is not mutually inconsistent with it being at the latter; in fact it's a requirement. A class at EWC is a class at UH. Simple as that.
Hope this helps.
Doesn’t change a darn thing, when we couldn’t find any trace of the Russian Classes or teachers when we first started looking for them in 2008, as I wrote, up popped some obots with the explanation that the classes were conducted at the East-West Centre, NOT at the university...WE WERE SUPPOSEDLY LOOKING AT THE WRONG PLACE! So if you have a problem with that piece of misinformation, take it up with someone else. Or more to the point, where were you when the subject was discussed over and over again? Where was your cleverness then, when it might have been appreciated?
Wouldn’t surprise me to find that the website about the teachers was a recent item.
And you needn’t be so patronising. Help is the last thing you are offering.
I was just replying to a post on this very thread where you said the EWC didn’t exist before 1962.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2905135/posts?page=129#129
I wrote exactly what happened and how it came about.
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