Time to 'rethink' things. LOL
Posted on 07/07/2012 9:26:47 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
In my previously published article "Secrets Revealed," I concluded that what President Obama is concealing on his genuine long-form birth certificate (not the digital PDF forgery released to the public) is that his mother signed her maiden name.
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Personally, I think the preponderance of evidence shows that Obama's marriage to Ann Dunham was a legal contrivance that suited both their purposes -- Obama's as a means to maintain residency in the U.S. until he completed his studies, and Ann's (and maybe also her parents') to provide legitimacy to the baby's birth. In no way was this a meaningful marital relationship.
So were they really married? Yes, they went through the legal steps to become married. But because Obama the father was already married, the marriage wasn't legal -- and it certainly wasn't functional -- so they weren't really married in the way we understand marriage.
I know that my conclusion -- that Ann likely signed her maiden name to baby Barack's birth certificate because her marriage wasn't a real one, and that that's what's being hidden by the release of the "birth certificate" forgery -- is a huge disappointment to people who think that the president is hiding something much bigger -- like being born in Kenya. (Understandably, since releasing the digital PDF fake is a pretty big scam to cover up a pretty unimportant detail.)
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I think its twisted also- but barry does have the dunham chin (jaw).. i personally think that stanley armour dunham is the father from a black woman in africa- and stanley ann dunham and barry are brother and sister, due to no pregnant pics of ann at that time..hey, but who knows- his daddy could be satan himself—lol
Perhaps Barack Sr. was the ONLY man she’d slept with whom she felt was receptive to claiming her son as his father? Malcolm X or Frank Davis were perhaps a definite ‘no’? I’m speculating. All of 0bama’s past requires speculation. Who would have ever thought an ‘American’ president would be a complete and total mystery, including his religious affiliation (although I think he is an Atheist). Who would have ever thought we’d have a president whose mother’s naked photos are on the Internet! 0bama’s president has lowered the bar so much we’d have to dig now to find it. This is his legacy. Shameful!
NO! For the THOUSANDTH TIME NO! It is NOT strange that there are no pregnant pictures of Stanley Ann. My Mother had 5 children, and there are NO pictures of her pregnant. My Sister had two, there are NO pictures of her Pregnant. Another sister had three. There are NO pictures of her pregnant. My other sister had two. There are NO pictures of her pregnant. *I* have four children. THERE ARE NO PICTURES OF MY WIFE PREGNANT.
Stop! Just Stop reading significance into this trivial piece of information. There yet remain pictures from the Dunham family that have not been seen by the public. For all we know they may contain a picture of a pregnant Stanley Ann, but it makes not a D@mn bit of difference if they do or if they don't. The fact is NOT SIGNIFICANT!!!!!!
Yep, I agree. She signed forms in HI with a doctor before going to Canada to have the baby. After she gave birth and decided to keep the baby the doctor simply filled the birth with the state. Something that grandma arranged. No travel involved, simply filing the papers. Those papers were never approved, simply filed. That is why this is a problem. The filing was not approved because the proper papers where never in place to allow the approval.
Time to 'rethink' things. LOL
Awhle back, I read a theory where grandpa dunham was hitting ho’s. Barry was Gramps love child and he made Stanley become the mom.
It made as much sense as anything else although it would not explain the BC coverup.
Because it is an utterly worthless piece of information. When it first came out, I listened to the recording intently. When the guy wasn't getting the answer he wanted, he asked the question again in a leading manner. "Do you remember when Barack Obama was born... here in Kenya?"
To which the Grandmother replied that she did remember when he was born. The Guy interpreted that as an acknowledgement that she was saying he was born in Kenya. Nope, that's not what she said, but with the confusion between translating back and forth from English To whatever language they speak in Kenya, the guy forced her response into an answer he wanted.
After listening to the recording, I was thoroughly disgusted, because he had destroyed any credibility any statement she gave would have. You cannot ask leading questions. You must ask open ended questions. His question was both leading and ambiguous, and her response was ambiguous too. It is utterly worthless as proof of anything.
Unfortunately, there were those that seized upon this exchange as proof that Obama was born in Kenya. It is not proof of anything. It is utter garbage, but people tend to believe what they want to believe.
Serious people don't regard that exchange as serious evidence. It's just that simple. We forget it because it's utterly forgettable.
But if grandpa was hitting hos why would he care if some ho got pregnant?
They didn't have DNA testing back then. The last thing grandpa would do would be to take such a baby into the family and raise it. It would be the ho's problem, not his.
Well the reason i say that is because she flew to chicago 2 days after giving birth? thats strange to me. ( atleast i think it was chicago)- this big balony story dont add up for ann.. it would make sence if they were 1/2 brother and sister.. she probally adopted him from a afican woman that stanley armour dunham was banging
If you inspect 0bama's alleged birth certificate, you can clearly see that someone altered 'Ann Dunham's' PENNED signature!
The signature was originally "Ann Dunham". Then, over 40 years later someone took a different type of medium point MARKER and replaced "unham" with "unham Obama" and added "(Stanley)" and modified 'Ann' as well. If someone had simply added "Obama" with a different type of pen, forgery would be obvious, so they overwrote 'unham' as well as added 'Obama' to make the signature more believable. It was originally 'Ann Dunham' because SHE WAS NOT MARRIED!!!
The Kenya theory is very weak. It has very little supporting evidence and it makes no sense at all. The possibility that Barry was born in Canada is much more robustly backed up by the available circumstantial evidence. Stanley Ann had TWO relatives living in NorthWest Washington state at this time. In 1961, it was a standard practice to send unmarried pregnant girls to live with their relatives until after the baby was born. The Salvation army also happened to run various homes for unwed mothers out of Vancouver during this period.
It certainly makes a lot more sense that Barry could have been born in Canada than it does for him to have been born in Kenya. No one could afford the trip to Kenya and back, and if no one was paying for it, they didn't go! (Barack Obama Sr. had to pick pineapples that year just to make ends meet.)
I fail to see the relevance of whether they were married.I do not think Obama would be any less incompetent had they been married.Even it they were married the unemployment rate would still be 8.2% and we would have a 16 trillion dollar debt crashing in on us.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/03/ins-record-found-showing-certificate-of.html
Yes, “referred to in INS docs” - which I have read - as in “Obama says he is/got married to American”. The references are to his oral allegations, the references are not to a document proving that a marriage took place.
I can answer your question. When she got pregnant she was living in Hawaii. At that time, there were very few black men in Hawaii, and probably Davis and Obama were the only two known to her. The evidence implies she got pregnant by Frank Davis. (He took about ten photographs of her naked in Nov/Dec of 1960, which is right at the time she became pregnant.)
Once she realized she had gotten pregnant, she had to hide from her Father the fact that she was having sex with his best friend. The ONLY black man she knew other than Davis was Barack Obama sr. Davis was also at risk of having her father go ape-sh*t on him and accusing him of raping a minor, or getting him into some other serious trouble with the police.
Both of them had good reason to not want Davis identified as the father. I think Davis offered Barack Obama money, and Stanley offered him sex, if he agreed to pretend to be the baby's daddy.
He didn't give a crap. Free money, free sex? "Sure, Why not?" So to answer your question, Obama was the preferred father because he distracted attention away from the real father, who had a lot to lose (possibly his freedom.) if he was identified as such. (A Black man accused of raping (statutory rape) a white girl in 1960? What do you think?)
I will further point out that Barry came back to Hawaii sometime around 1970, and Frank Davis got divorced in 1970. As Grandpa Dunham probably brought Barry Soetoro over to Uncle Frank's house, it must not have taken Frank's wife (Helen Canfield) very long to figure out that Frank must have been humping Stanley Ann ten years earlier.
July 2008, - MSNBC:
0bama's mama was "very young and single" when she had him according to Michelle 0bama.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx
Thanks for the ping, Elle Bee.
Hmmmmm, very plausible. How about someone in the media ask 0bama to clear this all up? Is this on the list of ‘Do not ask’ questions? “Mr. President, could you give us a brief recap of your past from the time of your birth? Thank you.”
I'm not prepared to conclude that for certain they were not married. Maybe they went through with the ceremony. Or maybe they didn't. They certainly held themselves out as having gone through the ceremony and gotten married, for purposes of the U of H and the INS and she took the name Mrs. Obama when she was at the University of Washington until her divorce.
A possibility I do not exclude is that after Obama Sr. found out she had been banging Davis, and he began to doubt that the baby was his after all, that he went to Stanley Ann and told her something along the lines of: "Don't you dare put my name on the birth certificate. For all I know, that old man Davis is the father, or someone else. If you put my name on the birth certificate, I will come forward and deny that I am the father and tell everyone about you and the old man Davis and that he is probably the father."
It may be that after hearing this, she was afraid to list him as the father and didn't name any father on the birth certificate, but she nevertheless continued to work on Obama Sr. over the years to try to convince him that he was the real father of the baby.
As someone mentioned earlier, what she REALLY needed were the services of Maury Povitch.
It’s disappointing that American Thinker published this. I’ve got an article ready to go for American Thinker that documents (from the laws and records released publicly) that Alvin Onaka actually indirectly confirmed to AZ Secretary of State Ken Bennett that the birth record they have for Obama is not legally valid. But the editor won’t print it. Apparently he’d rather print this kind of stuff that is pure speculation and doesn’t explain anything.
Sigh. I’m very disappointed in the “conservative” media.
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