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Maybe Roberts Got it Right After All
Self | June 28, 2012 | Alberta's Child

Posted on 06/28/2012 6:54:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child

Upon further review and discussion here, I've concluded that the majority opinion of Chief Justice Roberts in the ObamaCare case was exactly what this country needed. He effectively took the heap of crap that had been dumped in the halls of the U.S. Supreme Court and tossed it right back out where it belongs: in the homes and businesses of every U.S. citizen who has allowed this bunch of fools in Washington to govern us this way.

Think of it, folks ... Any obligation of the U.S. Supreme Court to deal with this idiocy went out the window the moment that dingbat Nancy Pelosi stood up on television and said: "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it."

If I were a Supreme Court justice, I wouldn't spend 30 seconds of my life reading a single legal brief in a case involving a Federal statute that was passed even though the Speaker of the House of Representatives didn't even read the damn thing before voting on it.

On top of all that, just consider this: There were 28 states that filed legal challenges to ObamaCare, either individually or jointly. How can 28 states file legal challenges to a Federal law that was passed in the U.S. Senate by a 60-39 margin? If I'm sitting on the Supreme Court and the Attorney General of, say, Pennsylvania (which is one of these 28 states) comes in for oral arguments in the case, my first and only "question" would be: "If you have such a problem with this Federal statute, why don't you take it up with Bob Casey, Arlen Specter and those nine House members in your state who passed the damn thing ... along with the idiots in your state who cast their electoral votes for that jug-eared Kenyan nitwit in 2008?"


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KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; johnroberts; obamacare; vanity; zerocare
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To: CaptainK
And you shouldn't be. I wanted the entire thing tossed but at least it's slightly better than it was before it went to the Supreme Court.
States cannot be bullied into accepting OC now, and the commerce clause was strengthened.

Obama ran on passing a health care bill and was elected. Now people wanna cry? ooosh. Elections matter...again and again.

21 posted on 06/28/2012 7:07:31 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: scooby321

Yep
Bush was responsible for losing the congress in 2006 and giving us Obama


22 posted on 06/28/2012 7:07:47 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Alberta's Child

No you are dead on right. I too wish it would have been struck down, but as I said on another post at 10:30 this morning...

Yes. Roberts and the Libs, contrary to common wisdom of most of my fellow Freepers, have FORCED the American Public and the Congress to either poop or get off the pooper.

The Dems do not want us off the pooper, lest they be up to their neck in poop.

So FINALLY we either have to develop a spine or be ruled by fiat. There is no longer an excuse possible.

Conservative business will now terminate many lib employees or pay dearly.

Conservatives will now defriend and defamily themselves of liberal influence or be an active participant in their own demise.

Honestly, I’m glad this happened for the reasons above. The country NEEDED a slap in the face. Now it can do the right thing and correct it’s error or fall/fail utterly.

NO MORE EXCUSES.
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It has been the fault of our congress since 2010 for not defunding and obstructing this mess. They had the cover of a pending SC ruling to do NOTHING. That cover no longer exists. Now they must represent as is their job or pay at the polls. But the idiots of this country allowed this entire mess, no, CAUSED this entire mess to begin with through our own inaction and now we all have to live with it.

Roberts, through a bad error, may have really done the best thing possible. Forced our reps and the people’s hand and MADE us do OUR jobs.

Flame away naysayers. I don’t really care what you think to the contrary.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 7:07:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Alberta's Child

You will get flamed, but good for you for thinking.

I’ve come to the conclusion today that far too many FReepers can’t even read, much less think. Lots of hysterics, too little reason.

I don’t like this decision, either, but we don’t yet know the full ramifications.

Perhaps this massive piece of legislation is, indeed, constitutional, but just bad law. The courts aren’t supposed to write law. Roberts tossed bad law back at the people responsible for it.

I’m hearing that, because he ruled it a tax, it is now a budgetary/financial matter, which can be amended or repealed through reconciliation, which can be done by a plurality of 51 senators, not the 60 super majority.

Interesting angles yet to be discussed.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 7:08:26 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: hoosiermama
There is nothing that gets the Am people riled more than tax issues

Except when the perception is that the "rich" will pay the taxes, you know, "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that guy behind the tree."

25 posted on 06/28/2012 7:08:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Alberta's Child

We can’t rely on the most educated Supreme Court to do their job so we’re going to hand it over to the American Idol watching folks who believe in aliens.


26 posted on 06/28/2012 7:09:29 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Alberta's Child

the Courts are supposed to (as in their sworn duty) protect us from the unconstitutional actions of the legislature and the executive. This court has not done its duty. Roberts is a traitor and should be treated as such


27 posted on 06/28/2012 7:09:49 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: skeeter

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/obama-threatens-the-supreme-court-again/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1456856/posts

I’m just sayin’


29 posted on 06/28/2012 7:11:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Jedidah
Every Constitutional authority I can think of who's opinions I trust, up to and including the only three originalists on the SCOTUS are as flummoxed by this decision as I am.

So, no I don't buy the 'we're all hysterical' charge. The decision is an unmitigated disaster.

30 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jedidah

Whom do you trust, Scalia or Roberts?


31 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Alberta's Child

It is interesting to me that tax bills are supposed to start in the “House”. this bill started in the Senate, so I find the ruling wrong on that basis.Roberts convoluted ruling that a “penalty” was a tax forgot to mention this constitutional rule. I am hoping others see it and appeal it.


32 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:32 PM PDT by learner
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To: CaptainK

No it cannot be undone. Listen to Levin on this. The PRECEDENT has been established that the judiciary has the ability to write tax code——something expressly deemed the purview of the House (or don’t you know your Constitution)

Between this and the Arizona ruling the country is now in the hands of our dear dictator Hugo. Don’t plan on having an election this yer. I am sure that O will find a reason to suspend


33 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Jedidah

So why did Thomas—Scalia—Alito—Kennedy vote against it

I am curious what their thoughts on the TAX issue argument were


34 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:36 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Alberta's Child

You are missing the point. The Supreme Court’s job is not to weigh in on whether it is a good bill or not.

The SC role is to decide whether the bill is constitutional or not. Unless someone can show me where the bill references taxes and followed procedures for bills involving taxation then the bill as written is clearly unconstitutional.


35 posted on 06/28/2012 7:12:49 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Alberta's Child
I got countless flames earlier. (many of them quite nasty)

Instead of attacking each other over something we have zero control over, get out there and DO SOMETHING.
I would like to have seen a total overturn of Obamacare, but it didn't happen. Move on and do what we have to do to get it repealed. No amount of bitching on freerepublic is going to make the SCOUTS say "oops my bad" and change it.

The November vote is more important now then it ever has. Unfortunately the only choice we have is Romney. (Those primaries look more important now don't they.)

36 posted on 06/28/2012 7:13:03 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

America is now little more than an open-borders land mass populated by cretins and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them in exchange for their votes. It is not an America worth defending anymore. That America no longer exists.

The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and there’s no going back. The Democrats have won. Republican politicians are relegated strictly to big-mouthing about how they will do this and do that, but in the end they are nothing more than Democrat-lite. Between the two parties the difference is merely a matter of how fast the swirling water takes America down the toilet, but the destination is the same regardless.

There’s no point hanging onto the past and getting agita over what some cowardly piece of sh** named “John Roberts” does. The place is already dead anyway. America had a great run and I will remember it fondly for what it was.

So my advice is for decent conservatives everywhere to throw some cold water in your face, arm yourself to the teeth, and figure out how to shamelessly grab back every last government dime you possibly can before the parasites gobble it all up. Every man for himself.

FRegards, and good luck,
LH


37 posted on 06/28/2012 7:13:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Alberta's Child

“Am I being unreasonable here, folks?”

If Justice Roberts were a fee-lance street rag journalist your line of reasoning would grant him such leeway.

But Justice Roberts is not a free lance opinion maker.

He’s being Paid, after taking a Sacred Oath to Uphold and Defend the Constitution, to exercise his assumed expertise On the Constitution and extant case law and existing precedents, to Uphold and Defend the Constitution.

As such he is not allowed to take the line you’ve ascribed to him.

No Flame from me and none intended.

This decision is beneath both him and the Office he fulfills.


38 posted on 06/28/2012 7:13:32 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Jedidah
This case reminds me of an infamous New Jersey case back in 2002 that was brought before the U.S. Supreme Court. This was the case of Bob Torricelli, the incumbent Democratic senator who was about to go down in flames in the midst of a scandal and was replaced on the ballot by Frank Lautenberg after New Jersey's ballot filing deadline. It was a blatant violation of New Jersey's election laws, and the state GOP petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court to hear the case after trying unsuccessfully in state and Federal courts to get the ballot change overturned.

The Supreme Court refused to hear the case. Their rationale was basically this: (1) we agree that this is complete idiocy and (2) your state is blatantly violating its own election laws, but (3) it's not a Federal issue by any stretch, so leave us the hell alone and go fix your sh!t-hole state government before coming to us with this kind of nonsense.

39 posted on 06/28/2012 7:14:43 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

What would be more satisfying?
1. O-care struck down by the SC 5-4?
or
2. A republican congress and president striking it down after a landslide election?


40 posted on 06/28/2012 7:14:50 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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