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Coyote-human coexistence urged as animals migrate [to San Francisco's Golden Gate Park]
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| June 2, 2012
| Peter Fimrite
Posted on 06/02/2012 9:32:12 AM PDT by WilliamIII
The revelation, along with photographic proof, that at least three coyote puppies were recently born in Golden Gate Park raises some interesting questions about the future of the park - namely, how much time before roving packs of yipping wild predators drive humans and their decidedly un-wily pets out?
That, at least, is what the alarmists are asking, and the answer, according to the experts, is "never." The presence of coyotes in the city is good for the ecosystem, city officials and wildlife experts said, even if a few feral cats go missing.
"It is important that people recognize that coyotes are part of our ecosystem and that they have intrinsic value and ecological value," said Camilla Fox, the executive director of Project Coyote, a Larkspur nonprofit that consults with cities, ranchers and other groups on ways to live with coyotes without resorting to bullets, traps and poison.
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To: bboop
Exactly. Shoot them along with feral animals.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:26:08 AM PDT
by
aliquando
(A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
To: WilliamIII
I live in SF and use GG Park frequently.
My Doberman is not afraid of any coyote.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:28:25 AM PDT
by
quadrant
(1o)
To: WilliamIII
how much time before roving packs of yipping wild predators drive humans and their decidedly un-wily pets out? That, at least, is what the alarmists are asking, and the answer, according to the experts, is "never."
Coyote attacks prompt action in Griffith Park
After two people are bitten in less than month, trappers are called in and kill seven of the animals.
LA Times, September 21, 2009
This is a national problem with predators. Wildlife agencies see their monopoly to manage them as a way to power.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:38:26 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Slave Party Switcheroo, Hillary! in 2012. It could happen.)
To: quadrant
I live in SF and use GG Park frequently.
My Doberman is not afraid of any coyote. Well you'd better be, for your dog's sake. The coyotes will send out a lure to get your dog to chase it... right back to the pack. They'll turn your dog, take out it's Achilles tendons and kill it.
This isn't for wimps. Kill them all.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:42:48 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Slave Party Switcheroo, Hillary! in 2012. It could happen.)
To: WilliamIII
"The presence of coyotes in the city is good for the ecosystem, city officials and wildlife experts said, even if a few feral cats go missing."Or a few children either???
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:43:38 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(Long may our land be bright with freedom's holy light.)
To: quadrant
YOU should be afraid. Let your Dobie finish off a coyote and YOU will be in a cage along with the dog. You better learn your place in the San Fran status ladder.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT
by
CaptainAmiigaf
( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
To: Smokin' Joe
Used to shoot them on the backroads in New Mexico (from the car). Now I'd do it off my patio if the opportunity presented itself.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:47:42 AM PDT
by
Recon Dad
(Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
To: Carry_Okie
Fortunately, he's spayed
28
posted on
06/02/2012 10:54:59 AM PDT
by
quadrant
(1o)
To: CaptainAmiigaf
I don't think so. People is SF are so dog crazy that any such attempt would be met with instant public revolt.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT
by
quadrant
(1o)
To: cripplecreek
One of my neighbors who has horses bought a couple of llamas to keep the coyotes away.He probably could have leased them.
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posted on
06/02/2012 10:58:42 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
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To: Carry_Okie
The coyotes will send out a lure to get your dog to chase it... right back to the pack. They'll turn your dog, take out it's Achilles tendons and kill it. A couple of these would make short work of a coyote pack:
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:04:08 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
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To: WilliamIII
Coyote-human coexistence urged as animals migrate
This kind of naive eco-babble is going to result in some coyote attacks on children and dogs. The people who settled this nation were far more familiar with wildlife than the eco-dilletantes of today and they made sure the wildlife didn't live in human inhabited areas for a reason.
To: Jeff Chandler; GladesGuru
A couple of these would make short work of a coyote pack: That depends upon a lot of things. Do they know how to kill? Do they know how to work together? What is the size of the coyote pack? How capable is the pack? Have they learned how to kill dogs? How many dog handlers would be willing to keep a pack of dogs like that after they have learned how to kill amid a random environment of small bratty kids? Do you want to own that liabilty in San Francisco?
Sheesh.
Seriously. People under-estimate the learning capability of predators. It used to be that wildlife biologists were saying that wolves would never mess with bison. There's a park in Canada, where the wolves got tired of killing each other and figured out how to take down the bison. The bison are crashing and soon those wolves will be back to killing each other, just like they do in Denali National Park.
The problem is that ALL of these systems are missing their historic apex predator: HUMANS. They will never function properly again without active wildlife population management. The carrying capacity of the land will crash. Fires, weeds, and deserts is what you'll get. After all, "it's Natural." The City should hire some hunters to kill them all, and then go after them in MacLaren Park and Mt. San Bruno.
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:19:59 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Slave Party Switcheroo, Hillary! in 2012. It could happen.)
To: libertarian27
Cats go regularly missing in my neighborhood within the city limits of Portland.
I’ve seen coyotes in my back yard and one night they watched me and my standard poodle before apparently figuring we were too big to bother with. And I think my dog hears them at night because sometimes she’ll jump up in the middle of the night and go running downstairs - barking like crazy.
Sure didn’t have this growing up in L.A.
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:20:13 AM PDT
by
Aria
( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
To: Jeff Chandler
What breed of dog is that?
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:22:20 AM PDT
by
Aria
( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: quadrant
How about five of them? The coyotes we have in the east are actually hybrids with both wolf and dog in them. They are larger than western coyotes.
I see them frequently as I live way out in the woods but I never see one alone.
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:27:21 AM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
To: Aria
Used to see their carcasses hanging on fences in Kansas, I suppose it was to show the other coyotes what would happen should they stay in the area.
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:31:55 AM PDT
by
pepperdog
(Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
To: Jeff Chandler
Are you in Idaho?
We were visiting my son there last summer, and as we drove up into the mountains north of Mountain Home we were startled to see a Llama on the grounds of a ranch.
Now I know why it was there.
To: Aria
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posted on
06/02/2012 11:37:36 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Slave Party Switcheroo, Hillary! in 2012. It could happen.)
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