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A couple of these would make short work of a coyote pack:

That depends upon a lot of things. Do they know how to kill? Do they know how to work together? What is the size of the coyote pack? How capable is the pack? Have they learned how to kill dogs? How many dog handlers would be willing to keep a pack of dogs like that after they have learned how to kill amid a random environment of small bratty kids? Do you want to own that liabilty in San Francisco?

Sheesh.

Seriously. People under-estimate the learning capability of predators. It used to be that wildlife biologists were saying that wolves would never mess with bison. There's a park in Canada, where the wolves got tired of killing each other and figured out how to take down the bison. The bison are crashing and soon those wolves will be back to killing each other, just like they do in Denali National Park.

The problem is that ALL of these systems are missing their historic apex predator: HUMANS. They will never function properly again without active wildlife population management. The carrying capacity of the land will crash. Fires, weeds, and deserts is what you'll get. After all, "it's Natural." The City should hire some hunters to kill them all, and then go after them in MacLaren Park and Mt. San Bruno.

According to Turkish shepherds, three Anatolian Shepherd Dogs are capable of overcoming a pack of wolves and injuring one or two of them. They were bred to leave the herd to go hunt for predators before the predators could attack the flock.

Anatolian Shepherd dogs are used by the Cheetah Conservation Fund. These dogs are bred and then given to the farmers to use in protecting and guarding their livestock from cheetah attacks.

So yeah, I doubt that a pack of yotes would be much of a bother for a couple of them.

Couldn’t agree more Carry-Okie. Too many folks around here with too much faith in their particular breeds and not enough experience with coyotes. I live in the high desert, the extreme edge of town. I’ve seen dogs badly handled by just a couple of coyotes, and these are trained and aggressive cowdogs. I know families whose German Shepperds and other large breeds have just “disappeared”. It is not an uncommon sight around here to spy a flatbed loaded down with dead coyotes because the state still pays a bounty on them. We’ve got a pack of 8 that will occasionally run down the arroyo behind our arena at night, setting off every dog in the neighborhood. They’re looking for rabbits mostly but won’t pass up an unattended dog. Long before dawn, they are back up the mountainside....

I recently watched the nature series “Frozen Planet” (Alec Baldwin narrated...ugh) and they had spectacular footage from the air of a wolf pack chasing a herd of Bison.

The pack get a good sized adolescent and was dragging him down until you are wondering if he might even get away when....WHOMP!!...along comes a full sized bull bison who rams the struggling adolescent and takes him out.

The wolves pounce on the now downed kid and the rest of the herd tromps away.

Ooh boy....its a jungle out there, even in the far north.