Posted on 05/20/2012 7:31:52 PM PDT by xzins
I figure his chances are about the same as me being struck by lightening or winning the lottery.
Vote for Romney, then immediately start working for Walker 2016.
Of course. I would hope that you you knew what I meant. I was using the word "democracy" in it's broadest sense. Americans do not vote on every issue. We elect officials who then vote on every issue.
See #19
The Constitution Party attorney general candidate in Ohio pulled 200,000+ votes in a recent election. Bush defeated Kerry in Ohio by only 136,483 votes.
In Virginia, Goode is polling 5%.
This is a state-by-state election and not a national vote. No Republican has ever won without Ohio, and Romney’s electoral path is so narrow right now that he needs both Ohio and Virginia.
So, Goode can cause Romney some serious headaches and maybe keep Romney to the right.
Oh, yes, absolutely. But unfortunately that time is past. There should have been just one challenger from the right to Romney. IMHO, that should have been Gingrich.
But there were two: Gingrich and Santorum. And for awhile, Bachmann and Perry also. The right was split, so Romney snuck in.
These are past mistakes (which the right will probably repeat again in the future). So now it's either Romney or Obama. Rally around one or the other. Sad, isn't it?
He needs a challenge from the right in the presidential campaign. As you say, the primaries are over, and they did push him to the right.
That’s why a challenge from the right would tend to keep him right during the general election.
You WANT us to have enough support to be worrisome, but not enough to cause Romney to lose crucial states.
As I said, the ABO’s are stuck with Romney now, but there’s no reason they should let him know they’re with him no matter what.
Goode won’t get 10% in the general election.
For a third party to be viable, it would need to start building at a local level, and build from there. It would need to get candidates elected to city, then county, the state, the national offices. Most third parties don’t last long enough for such a long-term development.
Good thoughts.
I’d focus on the region most responsive to my message, and then I would go after each office available.
However, I’d still participate in the big name races, simply because they are awesome for name recognition and unity of effort.
I'm not laughing. Other GOP candidates are at stake and you are not persuading anybody but yourself.
The Republican Party being unable to obtain the presidency with an unpopular, even despised Democrat in office after having moved to the left brings about the end of the Republican party and creates a power vacuum for stronger conservatism.
End of story.
“For a third party to be viable, it would need to start building at a local level, and build from there. It would need to get candidates elected to city, then county, the state, the national offices. Most third parties don’t last long enough for such a long-term development.”
What you say is true, but these are not normal times. The effort may be beginning now. I know that if Willard is the GOP nominee, I will be changing my registration the next day.
In 2000 Ralph Nader received 97,000 votes in FL alone and deprived Al Gore the presidency.
A vote for Goode is a vote for Obama.
It is a little late for that this election. The winner will be from one of the two major parties. All a thrid party can do at this point is take away enough votes to cause one of the other two to lose. You can bet that Team Obama is praying for a strong conservative 3rd party this cycle.
“It will prevent him sliding too far to the left”
Romney is sitting at the top of a slide and can hardly wait to win the grand prize and start sliding(to the left). It’s what RINOs do.
I hope you're right. But what I fear is that what will really happen is that the Republican party survives, as the country-club party. And there will also be a strong conservative party.
In a three-way race, the non-lib vote will be split. The lib's will therefore win it all.
I see your point. But for me, here's the bottom line. I'm going to do whatever Team Obama DOESN'T want me to do. Team Obama wants me to withhold my vote for Romney and go third-party.
Team Obama doesn't want me to vote for Romney. So I'm going to hold my nose and do just that.
I can sure understand those folks who want to send a message to the GOP elite. But I can assure you that the elite aren't listening to us. If they were listening, they would have learned from McCain's loss in 2008.
If you live in a deep-blue state, e.g., CA, NY, then you can vote for who ever you please as it won’t make a difference. But, you can still donate effectively as that method of support knows no bounds. On the other hand, if you live in a GW Bush 2004 state that went into the 0bama column in 2008, then you have the duty. 0bama must be defeated; take one for the team.
I am not in the camp who believes that Romney can win.
The most frustrating thing to me about our poor GOP field this year is how good our farm team is. We have a lot of potential candidates for 2016 and 2020. We just need to concentrate this year on ditching Obama and a bunch of 'Rat Senators.
Your analysis breaks down on this last line.
How does Goode's presence in the race force Romney to govern more conservatively if he's elected?
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