Posted on 04/14/2012 8:14:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy
It's called outsourcing. American firms do it because foreign labor can be cheaper.
But now, one company is being accused of bringing those lower-paid workers to the U.S. illegally and that may be costing Americans jobs.
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Palmer says Infosys, the global high-tech giant, engaged in a systematic practice of visa fraud, a charge the company denies.
Palmer said the first thing to catch his attention was an employee that had been in the U.S. from India several times before.
"He came up to me and he was literally in tears," Palmer said. "He told me he was over here illegally and he didn't wanna be here. He was worried that he would get caught."
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Palmer says at first, most came over on H-1B visas. These visas are for people with specialized talents or a level of technical ability that can't be found among American workers.
When asked if all the people had some special expertise that couldn't be found in the U.S., Palmer said, "Absolutely not. Not even close. Many of them is what we call freshers. People that would just come over, whoever they could get to come over. Whoever got accepted for a visa."
Many of the people brought in, in fact, didn't know what they were doing at all, Palmer said.
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When the U.S. State Department began to limit the number of H-1B visas, Palmer says Infosys began using another type of visa, the B-1. The B-1 is meant for employees who are traveling to consult with associates, attend training or a convention. But Palmer says the employees were brought in not for meetings, but for full time jobs.
Palmer said the jobs were in "Everything from coding software to testing software to fixing software to installing."
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Latin America is not even considered an option and considerations for building a facility in Asia is on the table, but for supplying the Asian market only.
There is at least some risk that China will steal all your intellectual property and build their own facilities in order to compete with you in Asia and in Europe and in the US.
They've done it before.
There really doesn’t seem to be anyone in our so-called “leadership” who is one bit concerned about the long term security of America.
Nobody. On the left or the right.
The left is perfectly happy to betray our nation, to gain an advantage at the voting booth.
The right (at least the “free trade” right) seems perfectly happy to betray our nation, if there’s even one dime to be made in the betrayal.
It’s discouraging, and tragic. America has no champions anymore. Just two competing vultures, each quite determined to destroy our nation faster than the other.
IMO.
All of a dime? In my experience, betrayal only requires one nano cent.
Bottom line, we do not need these immigrants, legal or illegal. I contend it is a misguided attempt to appease employers who need competent help, but unwilling to invest in the resources of its own country.
I am capitalist all the way, but when they, the businesses of this country subject the rest of this to all the frills and benefits of residency and potential citizenship to foreigner for the sake of just the bottome line, that is where I draw the line.
Foreigners, the H1Bers convert to citizens for the large part. They eventually engineer the immigration of their extended families, who largely take full advantages of the largesse allowed - assistance, SS (yes, there are cooperative agreements for their own-country retirement payments, etc.)...
We simply don’t need these people. We don’t have a wilderness to tame, nor can we afford more Democrat voters.
Yes, this is something that is pretty well known and has been discussed.
I remember an IT outsourcing group I was associated with whose vertical was the defense industry was constantly trying to offshore their contracts, despite being a security risk, and not allowed.
Hell hath no fury like a mid-level manager or up, hungry for a bonus, regardless of the consequences to society.
Unfortunately in the fast-changing world of modern technical commerce, that tends not to be the experience of employers—which is why it is harder for a 40 or 50+ programmer or engineer to find a new job.
H1Bers on average end up being modern immigrant families. If all our immigrants were like them, this country would be booming.
Because the incompetents from India work cheaper than the incompetents from the US.
What does the company gain by hiring them.
The bean-counters get to brag about how much money they've saved in development and support costs.
I had an immigrant working for me who’d become a citizen...he’d finally gotten his extended family here, each taking full advantage of the largesse available here.....he made $140K/year and somehow qualified for Obama’s home purchase credit...he took every opportunity to secure our company’s relocation expense reimbursement policies and milked them to the bone....bottom line, he spent three years with us contributing nothing - he was fired.
Not really - these are in most cases jobs that wouldn't be open or even in the USA at all without the visas.
I'd get rid of H1B and let anyone who wants to work in the US come - on the understanding that they get no social welfare benefits of any kind unless they undergo the naturalization process. And no "chain" immigration - Grandma stays in New Delhi. :)
What is happening is exactly what Nicholas Carr predicted in "Does IT Matter" back in 2004 - IT skills are simply being absorbed back into the disciplines that use them. Thus the CPA with Excel and VBScript programming skills is still a valued part of the American workforce - but the IT guy with Excel and VBScript programming skills is now working at Home Depot. Expect the trend to continue, as "pure" IT work gets further commoditized and outsourced.
H1Bers on average end up being modern immigrant families. If all our immigrants were like them, this country would be booming.
A repeat, again.....substantiate it.
Here’s an article with some statistics on immigrants from India: they now have the highest per family incomes in the US at roughly 50% above the national average. Immigrants from India tend to be highly educated, low crime, hard working, intact families.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/world/americas/29iht-indians.3322280.html?pagewanted=all
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