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Evangelical Leader: Jail Over Obamacare Mandate
OrthodoxNet (via LifeSiteNews) ^ | 2/9/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 02/09/2012 9:45:57 AM PST by ezfindit

One of the most influential evangelical leaders in the United States says Christians should go to jail rather than comply with the Obama administration’s mandate to provide all contraception, including abortion-inducing drugs, in their health care plans.

Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), told LifeSiteNews.com “we will not comply” with the Dept. of Health and Human Services’ mandate requiring religious institutions to cover abortifacient products such as Plan B, Ella, and the IUD.

“We want the law changed, or else we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail, just like Dr. King wrote his from the Birmingham jail,” Dr. Land said.

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1 posted on 02/09/2012 9:46:05 AM PST by ezfindit
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To: ezfindit

Why do these stories always say ‘one of the most influential evangelical leaders’ and you’ve never heard of the guy?


2 posted on 02/09/2012 9:48:54 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ezfindit
Rick Warren said something similar.

They know this is a radical secular campaign against religious institutions and belief, not just Catholicism.

3 posted on 02/09/2012 9:50:31 AM PST by RygelXVI
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To: ezfindit

And why is it again, that the Muslims get waivers?


4 posted on 02/09/2012 9:52:13 AM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: ezfindit

Nice going, but I’m reminded of the cartoon where an army of medieval soldiers is storming a castle. One of them takes another aside and says, “Hey, you knew about the boiling oil when you signed up!”


5 posted on 02/09/2012 9:53:16 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ezfindit

This same Richard Land sees nothing wrong with RomneyCare...


6 posted on 02/09/2012 9:54:15 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Thiz hearr Cracker aint gonna vote for Willie Boy)
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To: RygelXVI

The Catholic Church is just an easy target for them because it stands out and is one of the largest congregations. They hope that they can break the Catholic Church and use it as an example to intimidate everyone else.


7 posted on 02/09/2012 9:56:26 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: ReneeLynn
Why do these stories always say ‘one of the most influential evangelical leaders’ and you’ve never heard of the guy?

Probably because you aren't in their flock or watch their TV program or get their newsletter. Evangelicals are highly decentralized. I doubt non-Catholics (or most Catholics!) could name 1 US Cardinal - or even their local bishop. Heck, I have a hard time remembering who's a cardinal these days.

I've only heard of Land because he opines on politics from time to time.

8 posted on 02/09/2012 9:56:26 AM PST by RygelXVI
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To: ReneeLynn

Story did say that “Dr. Richard Land is the president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC)” that’s pretty darn influential given how large the Southern Baptist Convention is.


9 posted on 02/09/2012 9:57:30 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: RygelXVI
Rick Warren said something similar.

I thought Warren was Obama's BFF. Another sucker.

10 posted on 02/09/2012 9:59:47 AM PST by C19fan
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To: RygelXVI

if the socialists and their leader gets away with abortions and contraceptions then it will be telling religious institutions that they have to accept female homosexuals especially to the Catholic church .

You know typing that I just thought, who the hell does this man and his sidekicks think they are.
The GOP instead of giving boring emotionless house speeches on the floor they need to start fighting for once in their cowardly miserable lives.

Also the MSM,especially the MSM the left, the socialists, the GOP and all of us know that we have freedom of religion in the constitution and after seeing how the 9th court again manipulated and pissed on the constitution with their pathetic attempt of trying to rationalize their decision with their activism of the homosexual agenda then obama thinks he has the green light to just piss on the laws and overturn what ever he wants

This is B/S, first this week the decision from the 9th of prop 8, now this and then Boxer saying this was womens health. er condom lady maybe you and your socialists need to use it much more then you won’t have to kill the baby’s


11 posted on 02/09/2012 10:01:26 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

these religious leaders are always suckered, they got sucked in by obama for the health care law and now see what is in it and now don[’t like it.

Tie to wake up and every church needs to mention this to their flocks, send out AD’s etc

Next it will be telling churches to accept female homosexuals into the Catholic religion as Priests


12 posted on 02/09/2012 10:03:56 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: ezfindit

We keep focusing on the rights of “providers”, and it just illustrates how screwed up our health care system is.

Why are Catholic Hospitals a “provider” of health insurance for their workers?

Why isn’t the focus on the rights of the PEOPLE to choose their health insurance? Under Obamacare, I am forced to buy health insurance that includes the mandate to fully cover abortion pills. Since insurance is collecting a little money from everybody, to pay for those who file, my money is going to pay for abortion.

In a free market, I should be allowed to shop for a provider that doesn’t include things I find morally repugnant. But under Obamacare, every provider is required to include these pills — except, if we win this fight, certain PROVIDERS who have religious objections.

But these providers who will get exemptions are specific employers, and unless I work for them, I can’t buy the insurance they are “providing”.

Note that the word “provide” is a misnomer here. Normally the “insurance provider” would be the company that insures you, that pays out if you have a claim. In this case, it’s not “providers”, it’s 3rd-party payers. So a Catholic Charity is seeking an exemption from the law, so that when they are REQUIRED to be a 3rd-party payer for insurance for their workers, they can contract for insurance that doesn’t include abortion pills.

This means some provider will be allowed to make a special insurance package for these religious institutions. But not for me, if I want to buy an individual policy.

Of course, half the problem is the government giving tax breaks to EMPLOYERS and then forcing employers to buy insurance for their workers, rather than giving the tax breaks to individuals, and removing the employer mandate, allowing individuals to buy insurance directly instead.

If you combined a removal of employers from the equation (which should mean employers would then provide additional pay to workers equivalent to what was going into insurance), with an individual choice as to what kind of insurance they want, NOBODY would be forced to pay for insuring anything they didn’t like.

If I hate all abortion, I could find an insurance company that simply doesn’t cover abortions at all, in any kind, even though they are still “legal” for now. My money wouldn’t go for it.

If I think homosexuality is a crime against nature, I could find an insurance company that doesn’t offer same-sex partner benefits, and thus lower my cost of insurance slightly since same-sex partners engage in risky behavior that drives up their cost of health care, and can’t be made to pay more money for that risky behavior.

And nobody else would “suffer” for my choice. If another person didn’t like being in an insurance poll with religious folks, they could find a company offering atheist health policies. Maybe someone else wants insurance that doesn’t cover children at all, like the old folks communities.

All this would be ours, if we didn’t have employer-provided insurance, Obamacare, regulations, and a nanny state looking to “make our lives better”.

If we weren’t forced to buy insurance, nobody would have to debate over whether religious institutions had to pay for immoral treatment.


13 posted on 02/09/2012 10:04:22 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ezfindit

Well, the Obama administration is just as eager to martyr them as they are to be martyred.

They would feed them to the lions, but PETA won’t allow it.


14 posted on 02/09/2012 10:04:46 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: ReneeLynn

Dr. Land is a LEGIMATE influential leader. He works for the Southern Baptist Convention the largest protestant denomination in the USA.


15 posted on 02/09/2012 10:07:57 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Tennessee Nana
This same Richard Land sees nothing wrong with RomneyCare...

I think you have him mixed up with someone else. Land said that evangelicals detest Romneycare.

"Dr. Richard Land, the president of the Southern Baptist public policy agency in Washington, says Mormonism is not Romney’s biggest issue with his conservative constituency. For them, Land said, “It is ‘Romneycare’ because evangelicals are implacably opposed to ‘Obamacare.’ They loathe and detest it.”

16 posted on 02/09/2012 10:09:04 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: manc

Good thing is we’ve got Newt and Rick as candidates, both proven fighters on issues like these. Yet they’re trying to force feed us Mitt.


17 posted on 02/09/2012 10:10:23 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

In my opinion I think it’s pretty pathetic Boehner is out there begging for Obama to change this and only threatening to take Congressional action if he doesn’t. Regardless of what Obama does the Congress should be overturning this in law so no president can ever wield this power as a weapon at all.


19 posted on 02/09/2012 10:15:26 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones

Yes! It’s also helpful that ObaMao’s tyrannical mandates have shifted focus from the GOP candidates squabbles to the real threat of the leftists in the White House and in Washington. Hope this continues until November.


20 posted on 02/09/2012 10:21:44 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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