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Drudge had the story linked from his page, but it crashed LifeSiteNews and their site has been down. The author gave us permission to also post on OrthodoxNet for others to access and read.
1 posted on 02/09/2012 9:46:05 AM PST by ezfindit
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Why do these stories always say ‘one of the most influential evangelical leaders’ and you’ve never heard of the guy?


2 posted on 02/09/2012 9:48:54 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Rick Warren said something similar.

They know this is a radical secular campaign against religious institutions and belief, not just Catholicism.

3 posted on 02/09/2012 9:50:31 AM PST by RygelXVI
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And why is it again, that the Muslims get waivers?


4 posted on 02/09/2012 9:52:13 AM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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Nice going, but I’m reminded of the cartoon where an army of medieval soldiers is storming a castle. One of them takes another aside and says, “Hey, you knew about the boiling oil when you signed up!”


5 posted on 02/09/2012 9:53:16 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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This same Richard Land sees nothing wrong with RomneyCare...


6 posted on 02/09/2012 9:54:15 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Thiz hearr Cracker aint gonna vote for Willie Boy)
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We keep focusing on the rights of “providers”, and it just illustrates how screwed up our health care system is.

Why are Catholic Hospitals a “provider” of health insurance for their workers?

Why isn’t the focus on the rights of the PEOPLE to choose their health insurance? Under Obamacare, I am forced to buy health insurance that includes the mandate to fully cover abortion pills. Since insurance is collecting a little money from everybody, to pay for those who file, my money is going to pay for abortion.

In a free market, I should be allowed to shop for a provider that doesn’t include things I find morally repugnant. But under Obamacare, every provider is required to include these pills — except, if we win this fight, certain PROVIDERS who have religious objections.

But these providers who will get exemptions are specific employers, and unless I work for them, I can’t buy the insurance they are “providing”.

Note that the word “provide” is a misnomer here. Normally the “insurance provider” would be the company that insures you, that pays out if you have a claim. In this case, it’s not “providers”, it’s 3rd-party payers. So a Catholic Charity is seeking an exemption from the law, so that when they are REQUIRED to be a 3rd-party payer for insurance for their workers, they can contract for insurance that doesn’t include abortion pills.

This means some provider will be allowed to make a special insurance package for these religious institutions. But not for me, if I want to buy an individual policy.

Of course, half the problem is the government giving tax breaks to EMPLOYERS and then forcing employers to buy insurance for their workers, rather than giving the tax breaks to individuals, and removing the employer mandate, allowing individuals to buy insurance directly instead.

If you combined a removal of employers from the equation (which should mean employers would then provide additional pay to workers equivalent to what was going into insurance), with an individual choice as to what kind of insurance they want, NOBODY would be forced to pay for insuring anything they didn’t like.

If I hate all abortion, I could find an insurance company that simply doesn’t cover abortions at all, in any kind, even though they are still “legal” for now. My money wouldn’t go for it.

If I think homosexuality is a crime against nature, I could find an insurance company that doesn’t offer same-sex partner benefits, and thus lower my cost of insurance slightly since same-sex partners engage in risky behavior that drives up their cost of health care, and can’t be made to pay more money for that risky behavior.

And nobody else would “suffer” for my choice. If another person didn’t like being in an insurance poll with religious folks, they could find a company offering atheist health policies. Maybe someone else wants insurance that doesn’t cover children at all, like the old folks communities.

All this would be ours, if we didn’t have employer-provided insurance, Obamacare, regulations, and a nanny state looking to “make our lives better”.

If we weren’t forced to buy insurance, nobody would have to debate over whether religious institutions had to pay for immoral treatment.


13 posted on 02/09/2012 10:04:22 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Well, the Obama administration is just as eager to martyr them as they are to be martyred.

They would feed them to the lions, but PETA won’t allow it.


14 posted on 02/09/2012 10:04:46 AM PST by proxy_user
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I blame the Vatican for this BS against the Catholic Church.

Liberal leaders who happen to be Democrat politicians should have been excommunicated years ago for their stance on abortion, etc.

Another thing to think about ... Is Obama's mandate against Christians a preface to accepting Sharia Law in the U.S.

e.g. couldn't the maggots say it's ok to stone a woman for premarital sex... beheading someone who disagrees with Muhammad's teaching.

21 posted on 02/09/2012 10:22:46 AM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail,

More likely than jail is financial ruin via the tax laws. Death by a thousand cuts.

28 posted on 02/09/2012 10:40:08 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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Amen! Alleluia! Axios! to the honorable Baptists and their pro-life, God-pleasing allies. We need about a hundred million more like that!


29 posted on 02/09/2012 10:41:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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Amen! Alleluia! Axios! to the honorable Baptists and their pro-life, God-pleasing allies. We need about a hundred million more like that!


31 posted on 02/09/2012 10:45:25 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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Can opt out, as a conscious objector, this immoral Government?


37 posted on 02/09/2012 11:17:10 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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There is not a person on the face of this planet that I have more disdain for than Barack Hussein Obama. I will NEVER acknowledge him as President. He is a worthless pile of excrement who is systematically destroying our GREAT NATION!!
38 posted on 02/09/2012 11:17:47 AM PST by az.b1bbomberfxr
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Lifesite News is back up and running with both this story and the EWTN lawsuit story.

May God be with all of us who name the Name of Jesus Christ. May we all be willing to follow His call......even if it means persecution.

And if Obama is reelected, that very well may be where we're headed.

39 posted on 02/09/2012 11:24:12 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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“Dr. Land told LifeSiteNews he hopes Baptist ministers will “preach from the pulpit just how serious and dangerous this initiative by the Obama administration is,” and “encourage their parishioners to contact their congressmen and their senators and the president and let them know how deeply unhappy they are with this decision, and they want…legislation guaranteeing that it won’t happen again.””


44 posted on 02/09/2012 11:43:52 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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Are Muslims really exempt? Because if they are that sounds like Religious discrimination to me right there. If the exemption is based on the fact that Muslims exclude all others that says a lot. You’re basically punishing the Catholics, Protestant’s and Jews that actually help each other and work together to help all people. Think about it— a nun tries to comfort an AIDS patient near death who isn’t Catholic and her church must violate it’s conscience. The Muslim who doesn’t care about that patient gets an exemption?


53 posted on 02/09/2012 12:55:51 PM PST by MacMattico
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I am very pleased that the Orthodox bishops in America are also taking a stand on this, http://assemblyofbishops.org/news/releases/protest-against-hhs


58 posted on 02/09/2012 1:22:20 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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Obambi just got the LCMS Lutherans and the Southern Baptists to line up with the Catholics. I never thought to see this in my life time! Deus Vaulte!

And we will march together again, or see each other in the catacombs.

59 posted on 02/09/2012 1:51:40 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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“We want the law changed, or else we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail, just like Dr. King wrote his from the Birmingham jail"

Dr. Land is not black, therefore he can't quote King. Land must be a racist. (/sarc)

60 posted on 02/09/2012 2:04:43 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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ping


65 posted on 02/09/2012 3:33:36 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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