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Pretty good commentary ...
1 posted on 01/25/2012 5:33:00 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

Fred Thompson is pimping that crap these days.

However I do think we need to fix our primary system but that doesn’t have anything to do with NPV.


2 posted on 01/25/2012 5:37:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Gore’s alleged popular vote “win” was error prone.

Consider that it was 0.51% of the vote.
Consider that it excluded absentee ballots in states that weren’t going to be affected by those votes.
Consider that it excluded the 3,000 disputed military ballots in Florida even though the Supremes ruled those votes valid (Katherine Harris held to her original tally).

IF you had the election decided by popular vote, you’d have to do a precinct by precinct recount nationwide and wait until all absentee ballots had been received (or at least until that waiting window closed).


3 posted on 01/25/2012 5:37:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (SecofState Clinton applauded when a POW named Gaddaffi was murdered in captivity & his body defiled.)
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Deciding the president by popular vote is a flawed idea

Not if it’s an informed electorate, with skin in the game. If we all paid 10-20% (and I mean ALL) there woudn’t be the farting around with the money, three years without a budget and no accountability. Make it enough to make people pay attention. Half of them don’t care now because the other half of us dumbbells are paying the freight.

And NEVER allow government average wage be higher than private sector. NEVER, ever.


4 posted on 01/25/2012 5:38:06 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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5 posted on 01/25/2012 5:41:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Lmo56

Depends on whether CNN gets to count the votes or not.


6 posted on 01/25/2012 5:45:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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Democracy is killing our republic. The 17th was a terrible mistake. To go full popular vote for the President will only hasten our doom.


9 posted on 01/25/2012 5:51:02 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Lmo56

I look at it like this: The World Series goes to the team that wins the most ~games~ in the series, not the total number of ~runs~ in the series.

Bundling the votes into “games” by states effectively decentralizes the vote and gives rural America a voice that they otherwise would lose, submerged by the big cities. It forces candidates to get out and win the states, not just set up a national campaign broadcast center and do it all on TV.

I like it this way. :-)


11 posted on 01/25/2012 5:55:56 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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National Popular Vote

I have a problem with some of their polling results...

Consider my state, South Carolina:

There's no way 71% of South Carolinians think the Electoral College sucks. And be sure to read that last line. PPP is known for push polling and stacking polls.

Check your state's poll the NPV home page (scroll down a little, polls are on the right). Do the polling results jibe with what you know about your state?

12 posted on 01/25/2012 5:56:39 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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“Deciding the president” by national popular vote ignores the role of the states. The Constitution and thus the Federal Government and thus the Presidency were not established by national popular vote, but by the States, with the people’s participation being within each State.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 6:17:46 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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The electoral college system was intended from the start to give every state a certain amount of say in who the president would be, based simply on the fact that it is a state. The rest of the say is based on the population of the state (no matter what the voter turnout was in that state). This is true “federalism.” A pure popular vote would not only move recount issues into all 50 states, it would essentially enslave the “flyovers” to the big cities.


18 posted on 01/25/2012 6:37:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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If you change to popular vote, it makes the potential to steal an election by fraud far easier. Someone in, say, Los Angeles or New York would simply stuff the ballot box by any means necessary with no regard to the other 49 states.

The Electoral College turns the election into 51 elections which changes the race into fighting over the tossup states. If you went to popular vote, the election would be fought in the major metropolitan areas exclusively.


23 posted on 01/25/2012 7:53:42 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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Just out of nowhere, if several states agreed to this, and if in some future election one or more of those states decided that a particular candidate was for whatever reason not eligible to be on the ballot in their state or states, and that particular candidate won the national popular vote, would that state or states still have to let the candidate have their electoral votes, even though no one in the state voted for the candidate (write-ins aside)?
46 posted on 01/26/2012 1:21:20 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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