How Mormons see the world ("Romney isn't our JFK")

New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, January 19 2012 | Ken Jennings

[dfwgator]

How Mormons see the world ("Romney isn't our JFK")

But Harry Reid is.

[Red Badger]

How Mormons see the world

Usually in pairs.........

[svcw]

To bad the article sugar coated the “extermination order”, because they left out why the order was given.
To bad the article sugar coated the “mob story” and didn’t explain why J Smith was in jail and that guns were smuggled into his cell, then there was a jail break.......mob my foot. They way tell it he was a martyr, nope he was a thug.

[colorcountry]

I think Mormons are finally figuring out just how much inspection their wacky religion will undergo if Twitt is the nominee.

[SZonian]

"...the governor of Missouri issued an 1838 executive order calling for all Mormons to be “exterminated or driven from the state.” (The order was finally rescinded in 1976, luckily for Mormons considering job offers in St. Louis.)"

But many stayed behind, even Smith's wife and children. They weren't exterminated or driven from the state.

They wanted the ones who were instigating all the trouble to get out.

[RnMomof7]

We don’t particularly want to take over the White House. For better or for worse, after all that we’ve been through, Mormons would rather just keep to ourselves.

The White Horse prophecy says otherwise

[Antoninus]

For the record, for many Catholics, JFK wasn’t our JFK, either.

[FastCoyote]

[The specter of prejudice and persecution looms large in the Mormon myth.]

Which persecution myth is used to keep Mormons isolated and part of a cult in a feedback loop. The North Koreans use the same “us against them” tactics. I feel sorry for my Mormon friends who I work with daily.

[Elsie]

“I know JFK...

[Scotsman will be Free]

Why sure, Mormons don’t want one of their own in the White House. Sure thing.

[SENTINEL]

Nothing to see here folks, the power hungry corporation of the breakaway LDS sect of mormonism that produced Harry Reid and Mitt Romney has absolutley no interest in controllong a second third of the federal government...Move along now.

[presidio9]

Alfred E. Smith was "our Kennedy."

Prior to Hoover's 1928 landslide victory, Catholics generally showed low turnout, and had no definite political affiliation. Smith did better with Catholics than Obama did with African Americans, and Democrats have counted on winning the Catholic vote, roughly 1/4 of the electorate (and growing) ever since.

Coincidentally, we can also thank Smith for the New Deal. FDR, who hated Catholics, rose to prominence winning the NY gubernatorial seat Smith abdicated and used his new coalition to push through his radical agenda.

[JoeFromSidney]

For the record, for many Catholics, JFK wasn’t our JFK, either.

I recall complaining about JFK to one of my non-Catholic friends. His reply was that now that JFK had broken the barrier, maybe some day we could get a real Catholic in office. So far it hasn't happened.

[afraidfortherepublic]

...the breakaway LDS sect of mormonism that produced Harry Reid...

Harry Reid is a convert. He converted because his father in law (to be) couldn't stand the idea of his daughter marrying a non-Mormon.

[Scoutmaster]

To bad the article sugar coated the “extermination order”, because they left out why the order was given.

I don't support Governor Boggs Extermination Order. I note, because the media and faithful historians never seem to do so, that the word 'extermination' didn't appear in heated discourse for the first time in Boggs' order.

LDS leader Sidney Rigdon spoke of a 'war of extermination' against the gentiles in his July 4, 1838 Oration at Far West: "it shall be between us and them a war of extermination . . ."

[MARTIAL MONK]

Prior to 1928 the Catholics had nowhere to go. They didn't want to ally themselves with the Democratic and Baptist South where the Pope was the anti-Christ. In the North there was enormous anti-immigrant sentiment which would manifest itself as the northern branch of the KKK, largely directed at Catholics who were the largest immigrant group.

Texas would dance like a miser (see what I did there) in front of a pay toilet because the choice boiled down to a Republican or a Catholic (and a wet one at that). They would finally decide to go with the Republicans because they didn't have no Popes.

The Catholic vote would be strongly segmented by geography. In the East they fed the big city machines but in the West they tended Republican.

[SENTINEL]

Ah, I didn't know that, but thanks for pointing out the internal geneological bigotry that exists within the mormon church.

I'm "good pioneer stock" mind you, and a direct descendant of the Martin Harris family...you ?

Reid said ET Benson "led the church down the wrong path", and rather than excommunicate him they invited him to hang out with Monson and Oaks and give him premier seating (a row in fornt of Romney in fact)at General conferences.

[zerosix]

Mormons have been spoon fed that "them against us" routine as a way to keep them separated from the non-Mormon world.

So long as young Mormons believe that the rest of the world is against them, that they must continuously "be on guard against persecution from the gentiles" (aka martyrdom of Jos. Smith.)

They are taught to fear those who would persecute them for having the "real faith."

[svcw]

You might find this link interesting. Some explanations which I'd like your take on.
For instance the term “extermination” in an historical sense not how we use it today.
How the note was written, which as I read means "get outa town and we will make you" versus how the mormons ramped up the rhetoric to mean "they are going to kill us all"
http://blog.mrm.org/2008/07/governor-boggs-vs-the-mormons/