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Jim Robinson: Taking stock of our dwindling conservative inventory
Jan 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Tea party favorite and pro-life conservative Sarah Palin and her family were viciously attacked to the point she chose not to run.

Congressional Tea Party Caucus leader and constitutional pro-life conservative Michele Bachmann had early promise, but I guess came across as too "shrill" and consequently her numbers driven down to the point she exited.

Successful pro-life conservative Texas Governor Perry hit the race at the top but due to missteps and less than stellar debate performances soon fizzled and is now all but gone.

Pro-life conservative businessman Cain and his famous 9-9-9 plan had promise, but was driven out due to indefensible allegations.

Pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative Newt Gingrich reinvigorated his campaign and soared to the top of the national polls, but was unacceptable to the establishment and apparently also unacceptable to the "true conservatives" among us and his numbers are now plummeting

You'd think "unquestionably" pro-life, pro-family conservative Rick Santorum whose recent surge took him to a tie in Iowa and who's now surging in the national polls might be good enough to stand against Romney for the base, but looks like there are "true conservatives" now attacking HIM as not good enough.

Well, drive them all out and who's left?

Huntsman? Who? Moonbat Paul?

Ideas anyone? Should we all continue attacking the conservatives we don't like until we drive them all out?

Personally, I could easily have lived with Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt or Santorum and would be proud to enthusiastically support any of them, warts and all. Any one of them is infinitely better than Obama or Romney.

But if we don't land on one soon and raise him up over Romney, guess who we're going to be stuck with? And it ain't going to be pretty. And if abortionist/statist/progressive Romney (or moonbat Paul) is the one, might as well get used to four more years of Obama. I won't vote for or support either one of those two.

I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites. Who knows? May even discover an acceptable conservative (if not a great conservative) in the bunch. We've never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.

But we do want to have a candidate with at least an actual CONSERVATIVE record and not an out and out liberal progressive RINO. So let's compare their records and their actual conservative accomplishments but not try to destroy them personally.

God bless and may the best CONSERVATIVE be our nominee.


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To: MestaMachine
Santorum was the third highest ranking Republican in the Senate.

Thanks. I'll admit that I'm a bit fuzzy on the man's record, though I do know it to be admirable.

381 posted on 01/05/2012 6:21:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen.


382 posted on 01/05/2012 6:21:49 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: shield

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLweKX3BkNM

Take a minute to watch this — Newt just says it all — like no other I’ve seen in YEARS — honestly, not since Newt himself did it back in 94!!


383 posted on 01/05/2012 6:22:01 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: CPT Clay

Anne Barnhardt’s video would stop Romney’s campaign in its tracks if more people would watch it...just the first SIXTY SECONDS is brutal...she makes Romney look like a fool. Not even Rush or Levin could pull this off...


384 posted on 01/05/2012 6:23:52 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: txhurl
I’m thinking Perry/Santorum with Newt in whatever post he wants.

If there's no clear winner among the 3 after SC (or surely after FL on 1/31), they need to get together and draw straws to see who gets what.

Or one of them could outsmart the other two and go ahead and name a conservative VP pick, which would knock the other 2 out for good. That's what Palin is holding out for, imo. Not sure if she'd accept an offer from Perry, but i bet should would from Newt. Now wouldn't THAT just blow your hat in the creek?

385 posted on 01/05/2012 6:26:54 PM PST by naxetevitan
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To: LibsRJerks

You know — all we’d have to do it give the presidency to Newt, give him a republican Senate and Congress ...and he’d turn it around in less than 2 years. It would be done without a minimum of fuss and fretting and this horrible time would be over.

Would he bloviate, brag, grandstand, and posture? Yes — but he’d also get it DONE — he knows HOW. He’s been there and done it.

Newt compared to Boehner?? Jiminy Christmas ..there is no comparison! Newt has the COMPETENCE for the job!!!


386 posted on 01/05/2012 6:27:25 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: shield; Jim Robinson
I'm sorry Jim, but its this asinine crap that pisses me off. Shield, just because you believe Perry is the 'true small government conservative' doesn't give you free reign to accuse those who don't like him of being 'designed and directed by the left'.

Enjoy your friendlier place where everyone marches in lock step.

But don't you DARE have the nerve to ever say on this forum again that anyone against your guy is a tool of the left.

387 posted on 01/05/2012 6:28:41 PM PST by rintense
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To: LibsRJerks

Against Obama I’d take just about anyone. Don’t get me wrong.

But between Newt and Santorum, I choose Santorum. And I am not alone.


388 posted on 01/05/2012 6:32:58 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SatinDoll

Is there any info on Leo’s site regarding this Supreme court date ?

I went to the link and it read just like that April fools day email that was floarting around a couple years ago.

Fwiw, I didnt go to Leo’s site yet... but since I’m reading this thread and doing other things, I thought I’d ask.


389 posted on 01/05/2012 6:34:26 PM PST by simplesimon (shut yer pie-hole)
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To: show
It’s also about the debates and ganging up on the RINO and Crazy man in the South Carolina Debates. The Republican debates continue to gain in high rating. Let Perry zing both Romney and Paul with things they never could have prepared for.

Got it, but I have a hard time getting past the fact that the man has little chance of winning S.C. or FLA, but will suck crucial votes away from one of the honest conservatives who need to beat the RINO and Uncle Crazy.

It's bad enough that the conservative vote is already going to be split between Newt and Rick S. This is exactly how we wound up with McNuts the last time.

390 posted on 01/05/2012 6:39:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
AMEN, WINDFLIER!

Too, honor and personal integrity are the foundations of COURAGE.

It would take a lot of courage -- more than conservatives have yet mustered in a very, very long time -- to refrain from voting "R" in any presidential race, let alone one against the most toxic secular statist Democrat incumbent this nation has seen, and who would have been thought impossible just a generation ago.

Let the chips fall where they may, a vote for Romney would make statism and liberalism stronger in both parties. That is an absolute certainty.

People are scared sh*tless of the prospect of four more years of Obama for good reason. That's for certain. Another truth: Reactions made out of sheer terror are usually stupid reactions.

A vote for Romney, in my opinion, is just that. The aftermath would be worse and more long-lasting than Obama. Omama we can fight. Romney is as slick as oil. IF, God forbid, it comes down to being in that booth, just me and God and the ballot, I pray I find the courage to reject Romney, because it would take a lot of courage. Let's hope we end up with a better, more hopeful alternative.

391 posted on 01/05/2012 6:40:25 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: naxetevitan

I think the minute IA was analyzed (and it turns out Santorum actually won, not Mitts, there was an Excel ‘typo’) it became
clear that Newt and both Ricks going forward will hang together, for surely they will hang separately.

I’m happy with any of them holding whatever post they wind up with. Dropping the internal fight and taking it to Mitt is what will win and end Obama.


392 posted on 01/05/2012 6:40:34 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: LibsRJerks

Yes, he certainly does. He doesn’t have the record to back it up. That is my biggest concern with Newt. He has rhetoric without the record.


393 posted on 01/05/2012 6:41:13 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield; rintense

Well, I simply do not believe that rick Perry is the ONLY one to get behind or that he is the ONLY one with the experience to defeat Marxism and I guaranFReepingtee you that I am not directed by the left, so please put a sock in that kind of accusation.

My motto for the duration or until statist Romney is driven from the race:

Go, Perry, Go!! Go, Newt, Go!! Go, Santorum, Go!!

Prayers up that the very best PRO-LIFE, PRO-AMERICA, PRO-DEFENSE CONSERVATIVE gets our nod!!


394 posted on 01/05/2012 6:41:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I believe Rick Santorum would be the best choice now. Meanwhile, I am concerned of fake conservatives acting as extremes to pull the conservatives out of the race, and only leaving liberals as their favorite choice. In other words information warfare by possible hired underground lobby groups and stealth liberals roaming around Free Republic. It is one of a information game acting as extremes to avoid being detected as liberals, while slamming conservative figures out of the race. Yes, that is nothing more than a conspiracy at the moment. Once again, if Romney is ever selected, I believe the Tea Party should run as a third party with its own President candidate, to destroy the RINOs in the Republican Party for this election, even that would sacrifice four years.
395 posted on 01/05/2012 6:42:31 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Windflier
Got it, but I have a hard time getting past the fact that the man has little chance of winning S.C. or FLA, but will suck crucial votes away from one of the honest conservatives who need to beat the RINO and Uncle Crazy.

It's bad enough that the conservative vote is already going to be split between Newt and Rick S. This is exactly how we wound up with McNuts the last time

. Bingo.

396 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:38 PM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Santorum FTW!)
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To: Windflier
"I'll admit that I'm a bit fuzzy on the man's record, though I do know it to be admirable"

Santorun was a leader in the Senate in helping Bush get his "Compassionate Conservative" agenda passed. Without Santorum there might not be free prescription drugs for the elderly. And let's not forget how Santorum help children with the federal take over of education with "No child left behind" I could continue to list the many accomplishments of Santorum but the pressure cooker is making noise, so I will leave you with Arlan Spector that great conservative that Santorum helped to reelect to the Senate of the USA.

397 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:56 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I’m worried that our conservative right doesn’t have a person that is strong enough and can beat this POS we currently have as POTUS. Am I wrong or is there someone in the mix that can truly defeat this cancer on America?


398 posted on 01/05/2012 6:45:05 PM PST by rhubarbk
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To: naxetevitan
"what conceivable reason can he [RPerry] have for continuing on at this point?"

Because he lives (and may politically die) by the creed that's been deeply ingrained in us since we were knee-high to an armadillo: Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!

Well, someone needs to tell Rick that we're engaged in a completely different kind of war right now, and that it would really help the war effort if he sent his troops over to help one of the generals who stands a fighting chance of taking out Benedict Romney.

399 posted on 01/05/2012 6:45:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JediJones
The fact is no one is proposing truly and radically cutting government agencies except for Ron Paul.
More's the pity, because Paul is the candidate whose would-be foreign policy is giving a terrible name to small government advocacy.
I agree with the basic notion that government needs to be bigger than it was when the country was founded because of how much more complex our country and the world has become. But it absolutely needs to be run better.
And I agree with Mr. James Bovard (in "feeling your pain": The Explosion and Abuse of Government Power in the Clinton-Gore Years): "The majority of government agencies can neither be reinvented nor reformed. If Americans want good government, hundreds of failed government programs must be abolished and legions of laws that turn government into a public nuisance must be repealed. All other 'reforms' will merely prolong the abuse of the American people."
I don’t agree with the “send everything back to the states” thinking. I think too many conservatives think that’s the be-all, end-all of conservatism, but it’s an easy thing to say and unlikely to work out in practice.
There are some things the states cannot do and the federal government can do. Over two centuries' experience plus the Constitution are clear enough about those. I would not expect the states to take up national defence, but why should I expect or insist upon the federal government's tentacles in every damn last facet of American life? And has it gone unnoticed that most of the reason for the "complexity" of contemporary American life is the metastasis of government?
We are a much more powerful player on the international stage when we are the UNITED, not divided states. We cannot function with 50 hugely different sets of rules.
Then simply have done with it. Call for abolishing the states and their governments; suggest the appropriate singular monicker for the vast, newly-consecrated being; and, compose and submit that Constitutional amendment that will negate Article Four, Sections 1 and 4 and repeal the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.
Some of the states like California have gone so far off the rails that they ought to be reigned in by the rest of us.
Wouldn't that be just as untenable, to say nothing of grotesque, as was once the precept that the rest of us ought to heed the influence of California, or some such other "off the rails" state? There's no known law that says as California goes so go the rest of us (and thank God for it!); who on earth are we elsewhere to decide when California---a state which stands clearly to implode under its own tandem weight of legislative and populist excess---should be "reined in?" California's own extraterrestrial excess will rein it in soon enough, and drastically so, and the only question then will be whether there will be enough Californians left to resurrect the state from its own ash.
States are a great place for experimentation, but once we find policies that work, there ought to be a national movement to get them adopted nationwide.
When those polices that "work" are found, they tend to spread rather organically. Put the federal fingers onto those pulses and risk the solution becoming somewhat worse than the problem, if only because no two states are entirely alike and the specifics of one policy that "works" in one state will not necessarily apply in like or strict letter in another state.
Whether you believe in radically cutting federal government or not, there is going to be some government left and we need it to be run in an exceptional, not just competent matter.
This is what I believe in:

I believe in freedom.

I believe in individual rights and sovereignty.

I believe in a properly-construed government, a government whose sole legitimate business, other than protecting and defending us from enemies actual or provably iminent from abroad and predators at home (real predators, if you please, not mere vicemongers), is to stay the hell out of your business, my business, every citizen's business, until or unless one citizen would obstruct or abrogate another citizen's equivalent rights; as opposed to the improperly-consecrated State whose business seems to be sticking its fingers into every citizen's business whether it is competent or Constitutionally sanctioned to do so.

To run a properly-construed government would be exceptional, indeed. Indeed, it would be the exception to almost a century's rule.

400 posted on 01/05/2012 6:46:01 PM PST by BluesDuke (Another brief interlude from the small apartment halfway up in the middle of nowhere in particular)
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