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2012 Iowa Caucus Live Thread
Iowa GOP ^ | 1.3.12 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:24 AM PST by Free Vulcan

Live thread to cover today's GOP caucus. News, predictions, opinions, totals, and the like.

Will be heading out about 4 pm or so to get our site ready and do a final review with the precinct chairs. I expect it to be bigger than 2008 with very heavy turnout and we are preparing for that.

We are also ready for disruptions. They simply won't be tolerated. The state party sent us a memo saying if there's any trouble call the cops immediately. Anyone trying to cause problems is going to get a rude awakening.

My predictions of the outcome are a narrow field with about a 10 point spread for the top five with Bachmann far behind in single digits:

Santorum - 24 Romney - 22 Paul - 20 Perry - 17 Gingrich - 14 Bachmann - 4 The Rest - 1

Think things are still in flux and many won't decide till right to the wire, so I'm not terribly confident of any predictions.


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To: Think free or die

Typical of folks from the Northeast. They march to a much different drum than folks further to the South...


2,041 posted on 01/04/2012 12:59:17 AM PST by jennings2004 (Texas or Kansas?-- American geography is so confusing...at least they have some common border...:)).)
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To: Windflier
>> Try not to get too excited about the Iowa Caucus. The winner hasn’t gone on to be the nominee, then win the general election in too many years to count. <<

Ummm... the most recent Iowa caucus winner to be the nominee and then win the general election is sitting in the White House right now. Here are the numbers from 2008:

#1 Barack Obama (38%)
#2 John Edwards (30%)
#3 Hillary Clinton (29%)
#4 Bill Richardson (2%)
#5 Joe Biden (1%)

Of course there's a good chance the Iowa caucus winner won't emerge as the nominee, but the idea that the winners of the Iowa Caucus are only "flukes" that go nowhere afterwards would be news to George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

2,042 posted on 01/04/2012 1:11:54 AM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: EDINVA
Ann seems to have parted company with Conservatives back in Jan ‘10 when she took so much heat for being part of the festivities with GOPride

Oh that's right...now I remember...just goes to show you get to close to them and they screw with your head. She should have known better... but then it now appears she's had one foot on both sides of the chair so to speak.

2,043 posted on 01/04/2012 1:27:48 AM PST by caww
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To: CedarDave; altura; RitaOK
Michele is probably thinking "Oh goody if he drops out, I'll pick up all his votes."
Umm, Michele -- Not.


Michelle burned quite a few bridges with the supporters of some candidates, with her vicious attacks, and they ain't going to be in a mood to flock to her. Perry supporters went to Cain and then Gingrich and Santorum, they didn't go back to her, and she may not even stop and think about that.

And with CNN claiming that Perry is suspending his South Carolina campaign schedule, Michelle is probably very happy. Until new polls start rolling in, proving that she'll still be in single digits. Of course, given the competence of her campaign at times, I doubt she pays attention to the polls or why people aren't coming back to her.

I really wanted to like Michelle, but her ridiculous attacks, especially things like 6-6-6, which were about what you'd expect out of Obama, really did her campaign in.
2,044 posted on 01/04/2012 1:50:21 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: matt1234
I hope she comes around and endorses a conservative rather than Romney.

I'm done with Coulter - she was shilling for Romney when Conservative candidates could have used her support. Just like I'm done with Fox News - they push celebrity filth and sleaze as news, and they shill for Romney. Plus the Fox network pushes the homosexual agenda towards our children.

Don't know why they do this, but the Hell with them. Maybe they think if Romney gets the nomination, they'll get some favors or interviews from him.
2,045 posted on 01/04/2012 1:56:41 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: pollywog

Either ones fine with me at this juncture...if Santorum wins Newt will coach him to come across strong...he needs it...otherwise Obama has no chance against Newt..none...he’ll do him in in hte first round....in fact already has with his challenge for Lincoln Douglas...that’s a win for Newt already.


2,046 posted on 01/04/2012 2:15:05 AM PST by caww
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To: Aroostook25; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
At least give the mother one month after the earliest date to know of her pregnancy to make a decision.

Pro-abort, Aroostook25, bites the dust.

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2,047 posted on 01/04/2012 4:41:02 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: AFveteran; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
If Santorum is the nominee, Obama doesn’t even need to campaign. These bible thumpers who think abortion and gay marriage are the most important things right now need to get real.

Pro-abort/pro-homosexual agenda, AFveteran gets the ZOT.

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2,048 posted on 01/04/2012 4:46:55 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Aroostook25

You have been aborted.

How does it feel?


2,049 posted on 01/04/2012 4:50:53 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Ron Paul is disgusting.)
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To: BigEdLB

Speaking of “common sense elixer” (or kool-aide, if you prefer), you need to put the jug down and look around!


2,050 posted on 01/04/2012 4:51:58 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: JosephMama; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
So true. Santorum is pathetic.

Pro-abort/pro-homosexual agenda , Josephmama agrees with AFveteran and joins him in the ex-FReeper pile.

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2,051 posted on 01/04/2012 4:54:10 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: AFveteran

Now you have time to read The Holy Bible.


2,052 posted on 01/04/2012 4:55:40 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Ron Paul is disgusting.)
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To: JosephMama

Being Zotted is pathetic.


2,053 posted on 01/04/2012 4:59:22 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Ron Paul is disgusting.)
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To: AFveteran

Well at least Santorum would do much, much better than a Romney, Santorum is the real deal.


2,054 posted on 01/04/2012 5:06:15 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Aroostook25; AFveteran; 50mm
Well, you're pro-abortion, so we decided to abort you. At least, our method leaves a warm body. What does your method leave? Now for the fun...

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2,055 posted on 01/04/2012 5:24:04 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Slings and Arrows; All
1,222 posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:35:29 PM by Slings and Arrows: “Can anyone please tell me whether Iowa assigns delegates by proportionate representation, or by winner-take-all?”

It's a little more complicated than winner-take-all or proportional representation.

Iowa is an old-fashioned traditional caucus state in which precinct delegates go to to the county conventions and then the state convention, which selects the actual state delegates.

The actual Republican National Convention delegates are elected by Iowa State Convention. In the real world, all but the winning candidate has usually dropped out by the time the national convention delegates get selected.

A serious threat of a brokered convention would change that dynamic completely and Iowa's delegates could be fought over bitterly at the state convention level since in a case like that every single delegate would count. However, we haven't had a brokered Republican convention since 1952 and haven't had a seriously contested race at the convention since 1976. Both of those are basically ancient history with little precedent-setting relevance to modern politics.

2,056 posted on 01/04/2012 5:28:31 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: NKP_Vet; All

1,345 posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50:13 PM by NKP_Vet: “Southerners could care less how many times someone has been married. Newt wins SC going away.”

Depends on **WHICH** Southerners.

Yeah, I know it’s Dukes of Hazzard territory. It’s also the Bible Belt.

The least that can be said is that multiple adulteries won’t help. Newt lived in a wealthy suburban Georgia district as a northern transplant and he knows that.

But let’s be fair, if Newt had married a NASCAR trophy girl for this third marriage it might have helped him in some parts of the South. ;-)


2,057 posted on 01/04/2012 5:42:32 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Kennard

This is obviously not every other election. This one has a Tea Party element that is not being counted, who predicted Santorum to have this kind of support?

Pray for America


2,058 posted on 01/04/2012 5:55:15 AM PST by bray (Take Santorum to Sanity)
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To: JosephMama; Aroostook25; AFveteran

2,059 posted on 01/04/2012 5:59:28 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Interesting - thanks!

This is shaping up to be a truly bizzare primary.


2,060 posted on 01/04/2012 6:01:45 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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