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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate on National Security 8 P.M. EST 11/22/11 on CNN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/22/2011 3:37:12 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, the theme of tonight's Republican presidential debate is foreign policy and national security.

The debate is being held at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C.

CNN is carrying the debate live at 8 p.m. EST.

Participating candidates are: businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Ron Paul (TX) and Michele Bachmann (MN), former Gov. Jon Huntsman, and former Sen. Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012gopdebate; bachmann; cain; cnngopdebate; debate; elections; gingrich; gop; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate; huntsman; nationalsecurity; nationsecurity; paul; perry; romney; ronpaul; santorum
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To: RitaOK
You didn't answer my question, Rita. Did you survey the entire country on whether or not they want illegals deported?

You said only folks on FR want the illegals out. I don't know one person who wants the 20M+ illegals to stay. Our school and healthcare systems have suffered due to the support illegal immigrants receive.

Everyone I know says take away the magnets and the illegals will deport themselves. How hard is that?

1,661 posted on 11/22/2011 7:56:00 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I think they met in grade school.


1,662 posted on 11/22/2011 7:56:36 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: caww
I’m a “Newt” supporter and disagree that he is for blanket amnesty ....

The reality is it’s obvious if this nations people and polititions cannot bring themselves to stop the muslim infilitration what makes you think the Hispanics will be sent home who aren’t threatening to kills us? It’s just not going to happen.

While I have yet to state whom I will support, I agree with you that Newt was not promoting blanket amnesty.

I also agree with him that Americans will never agree with sending home long time illegals not breaking laws other than being here illegally, who are paying taxes, attending church, and living as a good citizen would.

Newt understands the mindset of Americans, and when it comes down to it, the election against Obama will also be against the MSM's ability to formulate the debate.

All that being said, I expect many to read more into what I just wrote, than what i said and to be flamed for it.
1,663 posted on 11/22/2011 7:56:52 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: txhurl

” Here’s insult added to injury: that brunette on CNN just said if Newt had vocalized Perry’s ideas that they’d be taken with much more gravitas. “ <<<<

It is incredibly true that efficiency in yakking has always trumped accomplishment. We should know. The prime example sits in the White House.


1,664 posted on 11/22/2011 7:57:35 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: MHGinTN
Delusion you are. Newt even said whom would be deported if he becomes President.

Give me a break. I am not deluded by what Newt said in a 5 minute segment inside a single debate. He is already on record supporting most of the Dream Act, a guest worker program, and a "path to citizenship" (amnesty). He is weak and naive on this issue.

1,665 posted on 11/22/2011 7:57:51 PM PST by montag813
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To: editor-surveyor

You get it! It’s not rocket science...Herman Cain can tell you that ;)


1,666 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:00 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: kristinn

A courageous candidate would have said: “ I support deporting all illegal aliens including those related to the current setting president!”


1,667 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:03 PM PST by Stymee (Beat Obama with a Cain!)
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To: caww

Did Cain actually talk about oil exports from Syria or did I mishear what he said...Syria is not a big oil player, in fact, they have very little.


1,668 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:07 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: caww
Just go to youtube and watch the uprisings at over just one deportation of a student who grew up here.....you’re dreaming clouds and fluffy stuff if you think they wouldn’t rise up....

So your solution to that is to give in to their every demand? You would make one heck of a prison warden.

1,669 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:14 PM PST by montag813
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To: Jane Long
CNN panel. Black haired sorta conservative with he widow's peak said none of the candidates were discussing eliminating the red tape for legal immigration.

Cain has. Epic fail from the infobabe.

1,670 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:01 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: editor-surveyor
Nobody in the Republican party is to Noot’s left on anything. Noot is socialist to the core.

I like to refer to him as 'N. Leroy Gingrich'. That usually gets a reaction.

1,671 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:04 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jane Long

You ignore the ones that are here and have been paying for 25~35 years.

It’s kinda like SS to me.
We know its broke, and we need to lay a place marker.


1,672 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MHGinTN

I know a ex-bank-robber who has a nice family, goes to church every Sunday, has kids and grand kids, and never robbed more than $5000 in any one robbery.

With Newt’s logic this bank robber deserves amnesty.


1,673 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:19 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: CynicalBear
...this country is not going to do anything that disrupts second and third generation families. There will be many who self deport but those who have established themselves here for generations will be given some sort of legal path. Regardless of how each of us feels you can bet on it.

That's exactly right...the problem is those who cannot accept the facts there will be no mass deportations of these families....and the solutions to deal with it are not what they want....it's been a long time coming and far to late now for mass deportations. Newt's right to address this in the manner he's spoken of.

1,674 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:56 PM PST by caww
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To: Tribune7
>> “ but he more than made up for it with me when he was the only one on stage to express a concern about an EMP terrorist attack.” <<

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That is nonsense!

Russia may possibly have the ability to launch an EMP attack, but terrorists would need thousands of weapons to do it. It's total stupidity, and shows Noot’s dis ingenuousness

1,675 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: federal__reserve

Either Newt is toast as of tonight or he has widened the debate.


1,676 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’m not ignoring anybody :)


1,677 posted on 11/22/2011 8:02:52 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: not2worry

I agree with you on Cain. He answers the questions.
The rest of the candidates have to drone on about how much they think they know.

For all their political experience:

Mitt: Massachusetts Health Care system is a failure

Sanatorium: Lost his last big election in PA

Bachmann: Drones on about her insider information on Policy
and yet the Committee she serves on hasn’t done a thing.

Huntsman: Talks about his China experience and they aren’t any more friendly with us due to his service as Ambassador.

Newt: Is a Beltway Insider, a Rino and now wants to go back and do another Reagan amnesty plan that didn’t work in the 80’s and add on the Dream Act.

Paul: Well, you just can’t fix stupid

Cain: An outsider who could solve problems, inspire American’s to rebuild out Country and not be ingratiated to the political pay-back system.

Your comments worth repeating - because they are spot on
with how I think also. Cain is the only one I would trust.
If he is elected I can change my screen name to: not2worry2


1,678 posted on 11/22/2011 8:02:52 PM PST by savage woman
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To: South40

That means former unemployed Americans will do most of the jobs the illegals were doing. With so many Americans who have lost jobs, it is important that we protect our own.


1,679 posted on 11/22/2011 8:02:56 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Mouton

Syria exports a lot of oil to its neighbors, which is the point Cain was making.


1,680 posted on 11/22/2011 8:03:01 PM PST by bigdirty
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