Posted on 10/01/2011 6:25:08 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
Rick Perry can't get out of his own way. During the presidential debates, he has reviled three immigration issues that Republicans hold dear: passing mandatory E-Verify legislation, rejecting federal and state versions of the DREAM Act, and building a border fence.
About E-Verify, Perry foolishly claims that it would not make "a hill of beans" worth of difference. Regarding the DREAM Act, Perry said that those who disagree with his decision to enact it in 2001 "don't have a heart." As for the border fence, Perry insists that it is "idiocy" to build it.
The debates represented Perry's chance to moderate his immigration rhetoric, more in line with liberal Democrats than restrictionist Republicans, and reach out to skeptical conservatives. Instead, by performing his difficult-to-achieve hat trick, Perry has turned off most of the GOP and has dropped from the top of the candidates' list to also-ran status.
(Excerpt) Read more at lodinews.com ...
Do you think Perry can win without Texas?
Before you huff, “Of course he’s going to win Texas” consider this: At one time California was Republican; then, using the same approach Perry espouses, CA veered sharply Left, all due to the overwhelming illegals corrupting the voting process at all levels.
Texas is headed the same way, it’s just 10 or 15 years behind.
SO, if Perry were sincere in his beliefs, he would announce and SHOW everyone how he too can win a presidential election without Texas.
Because, if Perry’s views win the day, Republicans will HAVE to win without Texas and California both.
Show us Perry, show us how it’s done.
It wasn’t just Hispanics and illegals turning CA left, it was the Hollyweird types and Flower Children. Texas doesn’t have much of the latter.
Had Perry run on a hardline platform he’d have never become governor in the first place.
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Perry, a rino after George Bush’s heart who was a globalist first and an American seconds.
I have stood next to the border fence in California. True, a determined person or organization can get over it. But it’s an important symbol. It’s like the six foot ornamental fence surrounding your property. It makes a statement. “This is my property, stay off.” Will that keep off someone determined to cross your property? No. But it will keep off the other 99% who would otherwise cross. It’s a boundary and boundaries are important in relationships. If you allow someone to cross your boundaries they lose respect for you and then they begin to mistreat you. They begin to assume that what is yours can be theirs for the taking.
Incidentally, abused people have no boundaries. I have often thought that liberals have been subjected to great abuse and have no boundaries and they therefore think that nobody should have boundaries. Think about their attitudes on sex; essentially, nobody can say no without “offending.” Remember, “It wasn’t rape rape.”
You made a fundamental error
Texas is not California
Go to Texas and check it out
You made a fundamental error
Texas is not California
Go to Texas and check it out
You made a fundamental error
Texas is not California
Go to Texas and check it out
Mr. Perry’s compassion ends where he believes Texas’ security concerns begin. He has never wavered in his desire to secure the 1,200-mile Texas-Mexico border with manpower, not “preposterous” fencing, or in his frustration with the federal government, which he believes has not adequately protected Texas from the drug violence raging across the Rio Grande.
In 2005, Mr. Perry announced a $10 million state program to increase border patrols and upgrade radio systems along the border. A year later, he unveiled plans to install hundreds of video cameras, creating a multimillion-dollar “virtual” wall that in its first four years proved overly ambitious, netting few arrests. Though Mr. Perry expressed support for improving guest-worker programs in 2003, when President George W. Bush pushed for it in 2005, the governor’s frustration with the federal government kept him from supporting it.
Meanwhile, Mr. Perry has remained at war with the Obama administration over his request in 2010 for 1,000 National Guard troops along the border; he got 250. In August, he asked the federal government to reimburse Texas $350 million, the estimated cost of imprisoning illegal immigrants in state lockups.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/us/09ttimmigration.html?_r=1&ref=borderfenceusmexico
If already he’s nothing but an “also ran”, why do you bother?
And the writers would be wasting everyone’s time.
Perry isn’t wrong about trying to build a 1200 mile fence along the Texas Mexico border. Just because some ill-informed say it, doesn’t make it so.
The Perry policy is that fencing makes sense in some urban areas where it can be closely monitored and quickly accessed by border patrol. It’s the continuous fence across hundreds of miles of no mans land he called nonsensical.
For that area he proposed other assets be used, including military and technical. And quick strike teams if and when needed.
Your little picture is something we don’t need to see in order to know it’s happening...we’re experts on the problem here in Texas. It’s the solutions and they start and end with the Federal Govenment that we need to focus on.
Whoever wrote this...who do they support for President? Do they support Sarah Palin whether she runs or not? I know, I have to chuckle at my own joke. But it’s not so funny, come to think...
Again, they say he’s no threat because he said what too many GOP didn’t want to hear. Yet they write an article about it and you post it.
I just saw where Cain endorsed Romney in 2008.
There’s your ticket...Romney Cain.
Oh joy.
“It wasn’t just Hispanics and illegals turning CA left, it was the Hollyweird types and Flower Children. Texas doesn’t have much of the latter.
Had Perry run on a hardline platform he’d have never become governor in the first place.”
Nice try, but Perry didn’t RUN for governor, it was handed to him when Bush-43 became president. Since then he has NEVER been challenged from the right. Conservatives here in Texas have spend a DECADE having to hold our nose when we vote for governor (something I literally did the last time I voted).
WE ARE NOT IDIOTS. We know that Perry that Perry says what he says because he BELIEVES IT, which is fine. And if other here want OPEN BORDERS, then Perry’s the man.
In other words, the editorial says candidates should lie about their views for political gain. They must love Romney.
It also sloppily conflates in-state tuition (Perry for) with the federal DREAM act (Perry opposed).
I don't think he'll be the nominee; I don't think he was ready for the campaign nor do I think he's particularly passionate for it.
His consistency at the expense of his own campaign is admirable.
I expect Obama to be president until 2017. If somehow he loses, we'll get nibbling incrementalism from the GOP, not fundamental reforms. It'll be a delay of the inevitable, not a reverse course.
Perry on Border Security — THE TRUTH:
http://governor.state.tx.us/initiatives/border/
Governing Principle
There can be no homeland security without border security, and there can be no higher priority than protecting our citizens.
While our focus begins with preventing the worst of the violence currently raging in northern Mexico from spilling over into the United States, the violence is only part of the destruction that can result from a porous border. The free flow of drugs, weapons and people resulting from inadequate security can undercut economic development, education and trade. As such, they can hurt Texas families in every way imaginable, from loss of jobs to the loss of family members to addiction, imprisonment or death.
Border security is a federal responsibility but a Texas problem, and Texas has invested hundreds of millions of state dollars in efforts to support and supplement security forces already in place. Still, this is a problem that will only be solved with more federal accountability and involvement.
Highlights
» Starting in 2005 with Operation Linebacker, the state has sought to provide funding, manpower and equipment to local law enforcement agencies operating along the Texas-Mexico border.
» The state’s latest operation, Border Star, builds on the successes of previous operations with unprecedented local, state and federal law enforcement coordination. With the assistance of the 80th and 81st Legislatures, the State of Texas has been able to appropriate more than $110 million each session to fund and amplify these efforts.
» In response to a rising tide of gang violence in Texas communities, the Governor allocated $4 million in criminal justice grants to cities across the state to increase patrols of gang hotspots. In 2009, Gov. Perry worked to secure more than $10 million in state funding for enhanced anti-gang efforts during the 2010-11 biennium.
» In September 2009, Gov. Perry announced the formation of highly-skilled Ranger Recon Teams — which include Texas Rangers, Texas National Guard Counterdrug forces, Highway Patrol and DPS Aviation assets — in order to address threats building in the unincorporated areas along the Texas-Mexico border.
» Since early 2009, Gov. Perry has repeatedly called on Washington to authorize the deployment of 1,000 Title 32 National Guard soldiers to the Texas-Mexico border to support border security operations currently underway. (see letter to President Obama, letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and request to Defense Secretary Gates)
» Gov. Perry has also recommended an expeditious deployment of unmanned aerial vehicles to provide real-time surveillance and intelligence to law enforcement on the ground.
“You made a fundamental error
Texas is not California
Go to Texas and check it out”
Maybe the other guy made an error, but I have lived over a decade in EACH STATE, and California was a really nice state (overall) when I got out 20 years ago. Sure they had a lot of illegals, but they had nice lawns and manicured freeways. It was very nice. Of course people said that illegals were taking over (including my secretary) but I just laughed and said, but look what we get in return (and obviously much more than landscaping).
Man did I learn a lot in 20 years. In California, once the illegals started voting (which they do in huge numbers now), it was over. The year was 1996, and they were polarized and then organized to vote (by the Dems) by Proposition 187, and the state as I knew it ended that day.
The idea that “it can’t happen here” led to 7 million Jewish deaths in World War 2...we need to GET OVER IT.
“Good fences make good neighbors”
It works with Canada. :-)
I have no problem with a fence, but I would also want to see prison terms and fines for employers who knowingly higher illegals.
Perry's approach is less ham-fisted, smarter politics. Just think, if people here are upset over the "heartless" comment, how do Hispanic's react to the equivalent coming the other way? The backdrop will always be Democrats add fuel to the fire, but it's ineffective if Republicans don't self-immolate as happened in CA.
At least you admit if Republicans lose Texas it's over. A law-and-order approach is fine, it's fair, it's right. You cannot, however, allow that policy to be hijacked by radical nativists and even outright bigots because your thoughtful position will be drowned out and subsumed into the other, conflated by the media into one message, one extreme viewpoint even though you are not with those destructive elements, you will be made to defend them thanks to willing Democrats, division hustling activists and a media interested in ridiculous comparisons.
Sorry to be stupid.. but what was Prop 187?
I have an idea, but am interested in what it was..
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