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To: BarnacleCenturion

I have stood next to the border fence in California. True, a determined person or organization can get over it. But it’s an important symbol. It’s like the six foot ornamental fence surrounding your property. It makes a statement. “This is my property, stay off.” Will that keep off someone determined to cross your property? No. But it will keep off the other 99% who would otherwise cross. It’s a boundary and boundaries are important in relationships. If you allow someone to cross your boundaries they lose respect for you and then they begin to mistreat you. They begin to assume that what is yours can be theirs for the taking.

Incidentally, abused people have no boundaries. I have often thought that liberals have been subjected to great abuse and have no boundaries and they therefore think that nobody should have boundaries. Think about their attitudes on sex; essentially, nobody can say no without “offending.” Remember, “It wasn’t rape rape.”


6 posted on 10/01/2011 6:36:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

You made a fundamental error

Texas is not California

Go to Texas and check it out


7 posted on 10/01/2011 6:40:06 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Gen.Blather

You made a fundamental error

Texas is not California

Go to Texas and check it out


8 posted on 10/01/2011 6:40:06 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Gen.Blather

You made a fundamental error

Texas is not California

Go to Texas and check it out


9 posted on 10/01/2011 6:40:21 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Good fences make good neighbors”


16 posted on 10/01/2011 6:54:38 AM PDT by mo
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To: Gen.Blather

Round up a few million illegals and set them to building a fence.


22 posted on 10/01/2011 7:19:44 AM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: Gen.Blather
"I have stood next to the border fence in California."

You will never "stand next" to a fence in Texas. The entire 1200 mile long border is the Rio Grand River. Where would you propose putting the fence?

42 posted on 10/01/2011 9:02:50 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Gen.Blather
If you allow someone to cross your boundaries without permission they lose respect for you and then they begin to mistreat you. They begin to assume that what is yours can be theirs for the taking.

A small edit, for clarity.

44 posted on 10/01/2011 9:16:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Well go down to Texas and talk to the ranchers who have property along the Rio Grande River, who would lose that water as the so-called fence would not be built down the center of the river, but on their land blocking access to the water for their cattle. Never mind two major lakes are shared by TX and Mexico -- they are not going to be fenced.

Look at the terrain; TX, NM and AZ borders are nothing like the areas of CA where the fence is built. Heck half of the AZ/MX border cannot even be patrolled by the Border Patrol, it is that fragile... Perry is right, you cannot fence the border, drones would be a far more efficient method of doing so...... but the only way to really affect illegal immigration is to target employers.

What a lot of anti-Perry people are missing in this is the education bill was passed ten years ago and had he vetoed it, they would have over-ridden his veto. Texas has over 40% Hispanic population, yet under his administration they have addressed voting regulations, drivers licenses, etc... given the state he governs he has walked a fine line and been pragmatic...

52 posted on 10/01/2011 2:26:29 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Gen.Blather
I have stood next to the border fence in California. True, a determined person or organization can get over it. But it’s an important symbol. It’s like the six foot ornamental fence surrounding your property. It makes a statement. “This is my property, stay off.” Will that keep off someone determined to cross your property? No. But it will keep off the other 99% who would otherwise cross.

NEWS FLASH: The southern part of urban San Diego is not Rio Grande riverfront 50 miles from the nearest town.

Do you seriously believe that somebody that is prepared to march 50 miles through the Texas desert is not prepared to cut though a friggin' Fence?

VIDEO: See how easy it is for illegals to jump over, cut through or dig under Mitt Romney's Fence which costs Billions and cuts off Texas ranchers from the Rio Grande.

The sections of the California Fence are short segments strategically located in high population areas that affect no riverfront property rights.

Try proposing on a stage in San Diego, CA that the Border Fence be extended along the Pacific beaches of Imperial Beach and up the beaches of Coronado, Mission Beach and La Jolla, cutting off San Diego from it's beaches, and see how long it takes before the rotting tomatoes start flying straight at your head.

If you are a Texas Rio Grande riverfront PROPERTY OWNER, that Fence means that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has trampled all over your PROPERTY RIGHTS and HAS GIVEN AWAY YOUR RIVEFRONT TO MEXICO by putting it on Mexico's side of useless Fence and that the Federal Government has CUT OFF YOUR CATTLE FROM THE RIO GRANDE.

For what?

For a "symbol"?

A "symbol" of what?

The trampling of private property rights by the Federal Government?

You don't think that the friggin' RIO GRANDE RIVER is enough of a symbol for you?

You actually want to GIVE AWAY THE ENTIRE RIO GRANDE RIVEFRONT TO MEXICO?

Hey, why not?

Let's cut off American property owners from the Imperial Beach, Coronado, Mission Beack and La Jolla beaches by extending the Fence there in order to show those Mexicans how tough we REALLY are.

It's sure easy for a liberal from Massachusetts, a congresscritter from Minessotta and a talk show host from Georgia to give away Texas riverfront property to Mexico, isn't it?

How about this solution?

In order to compensate the Texas riverfront property owners, the Federal Government can confiscate private property in Romney's Massachessets, Bachmann's Minnesotta and Cain's Georgia and give it to the Texas Property owners. Let's see how eager Romney, Bachmann and Cain are about THAT plan.

I have stood next to the Fence Line at Guantanamo. In the 1980's, the "Fenceline" separating GTMO from Communist Cuba, along practically it's entire length, was nothing but barbed wire cattle fence, that was a lot less imposing than this one because the GTMO Fence only had there strings of wire.

What kept the Cuban Army on their side is BOOTS ON THE GROUND and that is exactly what Perry has always proposed.

"Border Leader"

"Border"


55 posted on 10/01/2011 3:07:02 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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