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1 posted on 09/16/2011 7:05:26 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

I understand a vintage P-51 mustang was lost.


2 posted on 09/16/2011 7:06:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: nuconvert

Prayers for all involved. This looks really bad.


4 posted on 09/16/2011 7:08:12 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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Does ANYONE look/search before posting anymore ? ? ?

This is about the 10th air crash thread so far


6 posted on 09/16/2011 7:10:09 PM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: nuconvert

RIP, Jimmy.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 7:14:10 PM PDT by GBA
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To: nuconvert

A good friend of my wife had family at that race and we’re waiting to hear that they are OK.

This will be the end of the Reno Air Races. They can’t get insurance any longer and this will be the final accident for them.


10 posted on 09/16/2011 7:18:27 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep repeating it.....)
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To: nuconvert

I always wondered when that would happen at one of these events. Usually I wonder about them hitting each other.


12 posted on 09/16/2011 7:22:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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I have a coworker out there watching this event. I hope she’s okay.


17 posted on 09/16/2011 7:28:48 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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Here's a link from my local TV station... Official: 3 dead, more than 75 injured in Nev. air race crash, 25 critically

(NOT AN EXCERPT, MY SUMMARY - LR) The plane was a vintage WWII P-51 Mustang named "The Galloping Ghost". The pilot was 80-year-old Jimmy Leeward from Ocala, FL. Witnesses say the carnage was horrible with body parts all over - from those in the stands who had lost limbs. The plane appeared to have disintegrated on impact. Witness states she was about 30 yards away and a man in front of her started bleeding after being hit in the head with debris.

Prayers for the deceased and injured, and their families - also the witnesses... I can't imagine how horrible that would be to witness. Surely they will be haunted by this memory even if they are not among the injured physically.
20 posted on 09/16/2011 7:58:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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If anyone cares for reasonably ACCURATE report, from the official press conference going on now?

3 Dead, including the pilot.

54 transported to hospital, 8 serious condition.

Pilot was 74, and a true expert.

Did NOT crash “Into the stands”!

Did crash a few (unspecified) yards in front of the box-seat stands, shrapnel from the crash caused death & injury.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 8:02:32 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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28 posted on 09/16/2011 8:09:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
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YouTube video of crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCNePeKn3Tg

Plane is headed straight to ground at 0:21. Crash itself is obstructed but the debris comes in view just a second later.

Obviously don’t click on this if you’re sensitive.


36 posted on 09/16/2011 8:29:04 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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You ok 4?


39 posted on 09/16/2011 8:32:13 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: nuconvert
From another website, the P-51 did not hit the grandstand, it crashed near or in the box seats in front of the grandstand.

It's a tragedy, and a sad day for aviation.

That said, I heard Sean Hannity wondering why pilots were allowed to do this, and implying that it should not continue. (Hannity just went from "Great American" to "Ignorant Creep" in my book. There is no coming back from "ignorant creep".)

I've been to the Reno Air Races many times (last year being most recent.)

It's a RACE. Crashes happen (unfortunately) in racing.

After feeling sorrow for those lost, and some anxiousness for those injured, my thoughts go to how some ninneys will try to take the Reno Races away (or move the grandstands to an unwatchable distance); and, how some lawyers will consider this good news, and try to organize the bereaving and injured into a lawsuit class.

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43 posted on 09/16/2011 8:52:56 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: nuconvert

Very sad. Saying prayers.


47 posted on 09/16/2011 9:15:30 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nuconvert

I was at the races today and sit in the box seats about 40 -50 yards from where the plane went in. We dodged shrapnel and weren’t hit. A guy two boxes down was being given CPR. My take on the accident is this: Galloping Ghost was rounding pylon eight and appeared to get hit by wake turbulence which caused him to roll up off the course and upside down.

He crossed the deadline, heard the engine surge twice and he was on a downward trajectory. At first I thought he was going in behind the grandstands but he rolled it back to the airfield. For a moment I was looking right down his spinner.

We thought he was going to land on us but we got lucky. There was no explosion. We dodged some flying shrapnel and stuff that was rolling down the aisle

If there was mechanical problems it picked the worst time to happen.

I met Jimmy many times and I feel like I have lost a friend. It’s devastating


51 posted on 09/16/2011 10:13:09 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: nuconvert

Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybgd0EfxWCI


54 posted on 09/16/2011 10:34:59 PM PDT by rawhide
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I was stationed in Frankfurt, Germany back in 1988-89, when the jets crashed into the crowd at the US Air Force base over there, I forget which one at the moment, and many were killed. A soldier who lived across the street from me was one that was killed. He and his family went down there to the air show. He was the only one in his family to die. I think like 80 or more were killed that day.


55 posted on 09/16/2011 10:44:22 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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http://news.yahoo.com/photos/p-51-mustang-airplane-crashes-edge-grandstands-reno-photo-045300945.html


57 posted on 09/16/2011 10:51:44 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: nuconvert

11:00 News showed a VERY clear still photo of a trim-tab coming off the plane just before the pilot lost full control.

The trim-tab is not that large a part, it is part of the horizontal stabilizer.
Apparently, losing it made this plane uncontrollable.

So, it seems fairly clear that this was a mechanical failure at speed.

No doubt the NTSB will have more to say, in several months.


62 posted on 09/17/2011 12:01:29 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: nuconvert

I was thinking of going, but decided not to...interesting how life takes you places and holds you back.


63 posted on 09/17/2011 12:45:06 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Obama Debt-Laden)
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