Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 09/09/2011 7:07:44 AM PDT by Salman
An international team of scientists, led by Dr Stephen Barker of Cardiff University, has produced a prediction of what climate records from Greenland might look like over the last 800,000 years.
Drill cores taken from Greenland's vast ice sheets provided the first clue that Earth's climate is capable of very rapid transitions and have led to vigorous scientific investigation into the possible causes of abrupt climate change.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...
Hopefully, they’ll use real scientists (e.g., physicists), rather than “climate scientists” when trying to suss out the complexities of the climate.
Q: When physicists are discussing the causes of climate changes, what does a climate scientist bring to the table?
A: Coffee.
Not possible. Climate change is caused by Republicans driving SUVs and eating red meat.
Now we just need to find the evidence of those 100,000 year old factories that produced the abrupt climate change in Greenland.
It’s not the data we should fear, it’s the conclusions politically motivated scientists reach that will cause our extinction.
Rapid and 800,000 means some pretty long time frames when compared against human life span. That also implies that there is considerable time to mitigate the effects of the changes over which we clearly have no control. All this further debunks the whole Goregon crowd.
Not to criticize Perry, but I thought his Global Warming answer during the recent debate could have been better. I've seen him handle such issues better.
All Republican candidates need to have a two-prong approach:
1) Evolution - the president has nothing to do with this. At best, it is an issue for your local school board. Asking about Evolution is silly -- why not ask about something the president can act upon??
2) Global Warming - perhaps the press is ignorant and doesn't understand the latest science? A good candidate has read up (at least a little) on the latest scientific developments -- and all of the latest developments argue against man-made Global Warming. Therefore, say it loud: AGW is a hoax. It has no merit. Concern about Carbon is misplaced and good government will put a stop to all such scams. No backing down. No apologies. The ignorant journalists don't understand science. Ram this down their throats.
The scientific consensus is that the climate will change, that humans have some part in it, that the magnitude of the change will be from inconsequential (we need to do nothing about it) to catastrophic (we CAN do nothing about it).
In short the scientific consensus is not very useful in deciding government policy.
Statisticians should be added to the mix as the chaotic system is not quite deterministic, nor are the experimental data from well designed, controlled experiments. In fact, there is no Science of Climate, only people working to develop one.
So the climate has been able to make large changes without human intervention deliberate or otherwise.
You might be able to make a case to the general public that the views on those issues are not consequential to a presidential candidate, but I think people viscerally know that your view of either reflects your answer to the VERY important question - “who is man?”
Imageo Dei, image of God, a special creation in a created world,
or Imageo Goo, evolved from goo, nothing special, and a blight on this accidental planet.
I would like a politician to say, "I think we're special. I think we are here for a purpose. I think we answer to a higher authority and that we are bound by a moral sense which comes from that higher authority. That's how I see us. Now, as to what your local schools should teach in their science classes, well, I'm a representative of the federal government, and you do NOT want me to be involved in such things. Let your local school board decide that stuff. Next question?"
I witnessed an event over this past weekend which made me feel once again how insignificant we little humans are to mother nature. For 6 hours, lightning strikes were going off like popcorn! Trees all over the place were struck. Fires started, power lost. We must stop kidding ourselves that we can ever have control of such a complex system.
And by withholding the rightful plunder that the Carbon Credit Profiteers so richly deserve because of their hard work and diligence at setting up the AGW grift. It is also caused by not giving a huge percentage of your income to despotic totalitarian governments through cap n’ trade taxes so that the temperature of the Earth can be (theoretically) lowered by .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000152°F over the next 100 years. And that's if the phony AGW hoax is correct. It's been shown over and over and and over again to be a hoax.
It doesn't seem to me that we have $700 trillion to spend on something that were not sure about, that all the evidence points against, that would only change the temperature a tiny fraction of a tiny bit IF they they were right, that would ruin all the economies of the world and bring governmental tyranny that hasn't even been imagined in the grimmest of dystopian fiction.
Ice ages have be a fact of nature for the last million years, every 20-50 thousand years. A million years is very short in geologic time What should be studied is what changed a million years ago.
What should be should be consensus among climatologists is the depth of ice on Manhattan will be at least a half mile?
“Now we just need to find the evidence of those 100,000 year old factories that produced the abrupt climate change in Greenland.”
We all know that it was those ‘Atlantians’.
How do you think they destroyed themselves and sunk a whole continent?
(I hope a ‘sarcasm’ tag isn’t needed)
:0)
Pinging the Hoax!!!
My solution to global climate change would be to put a cap on all the carbon dioxide and methane coming out of the halls of government and news organizations in Washington.
I’ve seen this movie before......
Oh, yeah! “The Day after Tomorrow”, directed by Roland Emmerich.
On a personal note, I love disaster movies! “2012” rocked.
Imageo Dei, image of God, a special creation in a created world,
or Imageo Goo, evolved from goo, nothing special, and a blight on this accidental planet.”
The Founders carefully crafted the declaration to say that man was free to worship his “Creator”, not his God”, and most certainly not his Mad Mo. They so did to avoid the religious warfare which had devastated Europe.
Whatever one’s opinion of their “Creator” may be, to allow such an opinion to cause one to reject hard data on such basis is, arguably, more of a European than an American perspective.
Whatever the origins of Man - as yet we have no way to arrive at a verifiable answer to that question. Thus, to needlessly (and fruitlessly) add the issue of Man’s origin to a climate question is, IMHO, both unnecessary and unproductive.
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