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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
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To: maggief

A leftist that espoused fiscal conservative principles, cut taxes down to historic lows, signed 3 pro-life bills into law, while in office is a leftist I would vote for. :)


1,841 posted on 09/07/2011 8:27:35 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Thanks for reminding me of the Justice Brothers Shanklin bit. Everytime I think of Sharpton I think of the megaphone well and him burning down Freddie's fashion mart and the whole Tawana Brawley incident.

You think waterboarding is bad? I think watching the MSNBC panel is the worst form of torture anyone on planet Earth can endure.

I'll be honest I'm a fan of FNC and never watch MSNBC but wow are these people completely insane!!!

1,842 posted on 09/07/2011 8:27:53 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: MagUSNRET

LoL “suicide bomber belts”!


1,843 posted on 09/07/2011 8:28:23 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: All

When did Al Sharpton become a journalist? This guy probably couldn’t read a coloring book. And now he is a television journalist? Talk about Alice in Wonderland!


1,844 posted on 09/07/2011 8:29:09 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: FourtySeven

Yes, those stupid ass high waisted belts she insists on wearing..............she looks like an idiot........but hey...I guess that is the epitome of “type casting”


1,845 posted on 09/07/2011 8:29:48 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: LibsRJerks

What kind of hair dye do think Chrissy Boy uses? No way that hair color is la natural. Beginning to wonder about Chrissy. Guys giving him tingles up his leg, was almost orgasmic with the ball kicking talk tonight and now the obsession with the gay marriage issue. Could he be a closet case?


1,846 posted on 09/07/2011 8:30:19 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: skr

That’s the problem with discussing the issue in sound bites. All you heard in the debate was “we shouldn’t force kids to get shots, parent’s should get an opt-in, not an opt-out. But the only reason that argument gets any ground here is because of the specific vaccination we are talking about — it’s not a general rule.

But the way vaccine laws are written, they don’t distinguish between vaccines that would be opt-out, and ones that might be an “opt-in”.

In fact, it would make no sense put a vaccination on the “mandatory” list and make it an “opt-in”. Parents can ALWAYS opt-in to a vaccination. They just go find a doctor willing to prescribe the vaccine, and they get it.

The point of putting a vaccine on the list, which the other candidates ignored in order to score the political points, is so the vaccine is covered by insurance, and by the free and reduced-price vaccine programs for poor people.

It’s more of a problem of how government interferes in our health insurance with regulations.


1,847 posted on 09/07/2011 8:30:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

The reason it was “opt out” rather than “opt in” was so insurance would pay for it. Perry said he hates cancer so much, he wanted to save these girls from possible someday getting cervical cancer. If he could do it over, he’d do it differently. He would not apologize for trying to save lives, though. He did well with his answer.


1,848 posted on 09/07/2011 8:30:49 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: Dengar01

Agree on MSNBC. Hard on the ears. Worse on the eyes. Even worse on the brain.


1,849 posted on 09/07/2011 8:31:04 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: comebacknewt
lol! Yeah...you knew. You Perrybots crack me up.

And spare me the generic Perrybot rationalization, I've heard it a dozen times before.

I'd tell you that Ricardo is for giving amnesty to those in this country ILLEGALLY but you'd probably try to spin that also.

You people are a hoot.

1,850 posted on 09/07/2011 8:31:16 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Dengar01

Affirmative Action on STERIODS!


1,851 posted on 09/07/2011 8:31:16 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET

I don’t know where Chris Matthews is?


1,852 posted on 09/07/2011 8:31:46 PM PDT by bray (Palin is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: bray
My two cents:

immediately after inaguartion...
1 End the EPA
2 End the Department of Education
3 Abolish the TSA

Those are just the things at the top of my mind...

1,853 posted on 09/07/2011 8:32:07 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: Dengar01
Let's say that you have been released from prison after serving 30 years in solitary confinement. You are starved for for human contact and, especially, female companionship. Rachael Maddow meets you at the prison gates with a bottle of Boone's Farm and a Barry White CD. Whaddya do?
1,854 posted on 09/07/2011 8:32:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bray

Im guessing Chrissy is checking his leg for futyre thrills..................Either that, or drinkinghimself into another stupor, so he can slobber his way thorough another TV broadcast...


1,855 posted on 09/07/2011 8:33:08 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: steve86

I’m sorry, I was talking about vaccines “in-general” because none of the candidates was making a distinction between the normal vaccines and this one. They just said it was immoral not to let parents have the choice, and to opt-in.

But opt-in doesn’t make sense anyway — you can ALWAYS opt-in, just get the vaccine. It’s not like parents need government PERMISSION to get a vaccine, just a doctor’s prescription.


1,856 posted on 09/07/2011 8:33:13 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FourtySeven

Ever notice how Al looks like Al Joelson?
Do you think Sgt Schultz ever graduated High School?


1,857 posted on 09/07/2011 8:33:28 PM PDT by bray (Palin is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Tell them to take me back and put me in the hole (Slang for Solitary)


1,858 posted on 09/07/2011 8:33:51 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET
Affirmative Action on STERIODS!

And ya wonder why they have no ratings???

Al Sharpton as a journalist? The guy has no grasp of the English language. He needs a damn translator.

The other freaks on the panel make me wish I could throw rotten vegetables at them.

Everytime I see Madcow I get a gag reflex. Maybe I can sue MSNBC for post traumatic stress disorder :)

1,859 posted on 09/07/2011 8:34:38 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: Dengar01

I think you forgot Bulldoze and salt the earth.


1,860 posted on 09/07/2011 8:35:59 PM PDT by bray (Palin is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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