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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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To: CharlesWayneCT
The point of vaccinations are meant to be given to most people, or it won’t work.

Some vaccinations, yes, particularly for the airborne and easily transmitted viruses. But there are those, like rabies, that are limited to people in related high-risk situations.

HPV vaccinations are unnecessary for those who aren't sexually active, and even for those who are, HPV often clears up on its own and only causes cervical cancer in some.

1,761 posted on 09/07/2011 7:57:01 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: jazusamo

Thank you. :)

But talk about a let down! 30 seconds of the ditto cam.

< sigh >


1,762 posted on 09/07/2011 7:57:08 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: mylife
Al Sharpton is in no position to question the intelligence of anyone.
1,763 posted on 09/07/2011 7:57:23 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Windflier
I didn't watch MSLSD

I watched most of it, and really thought the moderators were attempting to shape the debate and the time given to candidates appeared directly proportional to the latest poll results. Ithink that played against the group as a whole and put too much focus or lack thereof on specific individuals.

Huntsman supports AGW, so he's just lost 98% of the Republican base.

I thought Huntsman did well until he inferred I was an idiot because I am skeptical of the AGW theory and that the science was settled. Big mistake since that cuts his legs out regarding energy which is the core issue as it relates to climate change theory.

Newt, as usual was a great debater, but didn't do anything to indicate that his entire campaign won't implode tomorrow. THink he'd make a good Sec. of State though.

Perry was put on the hot seat all debate. Would like to see a percentage breakdown of questions (and follow ups) per candidate and time during the debate per candidate. The cameras were definately on him and they were looking for sound bites to use against him. Why did the field agree to MSNBC for this anyway?

Mitt was impressive. Some of that was due to format - never hit anything other than some fleeting Romneycare debate. Again - the debate seemed to be designed to pull ammo to use against Perry and was mostly softballs to Romney.

Every time Cain talked he made sense and talked well - but the moderators apparently wanted to minimize that and him. A shame in my opinion.

Bachmann was pretty flat in my opinion. Again - the moderators facilitated that, but she only did okay on the rare opportunities when the moderators blessed her with time to talk.

Ron Paul jumped the shark, looked lost, and paranoid. I very much like his dedication to the Constitution, but stating that we should not secure our borders from illegals coming in because those same securities might be used to fence us in was absurd. Not because it could never happen, but I want a president that believes that in the future our major problem is not going to be citizens trying to escape. Not a real positive concept in my opinion.

Nobody knocked it out of the part. The moderators and moderation were awful and in my opinion did their best to marginalize every candidate that was on stage.

1,764 posted on 09/07/2011 7:57:23 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: tcrlaf

I’m tryin’...but I would LOVE to see her make hash out of
some of these debaters AND the goofy panelists that ask
the ridiculous questions!


1,765 posted on 09/07/2011 7:58:00 PM PDT by luvie (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Praying for you, CC.


1,766 posted on 09/07/2011 7:59:01 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

You take it out of context.
They are speaking of a border like the Canadian border were we actually see and end to border problems.

The only way we will ever get that border is for Mexico to stop robbing their people of opportunity and stop aiding the drug cartels.


1,767 posted on 09/07/2011 7:59:28 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: alstewartfan

All true!


1,768 posted on 09/07/2011 7:59:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: skr

Funny that you and I replied to that almost simultaneously after all that time.


1,769 posted on 09/07/2011 7:59:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Palladin

Can you have an attorney general whose college degree is in animal science?


1,770 posted on 09/07/2011 7:59:59 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Coldwater Creek; Jim Robinson

Why do you quote Holy Scripture in your tagline, while you insult a fellow Christian at the same time?

I am the wife of a 26 year Air Force Veteran who served in the current war.

Neither I nor my veteran husband are FOOLS.

AND WE WILL VOTE FOR WHOM EVER WE WANT!


1,771 posted on 09/07/2011 8:00:02 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Sarah Palin 2012 "Not For Sale!")
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To: samtheman

The CERN study was just released like today. These people don’t track MMGW debates or eligibility debates or Fast and Furious etc. like alot of people here.
The CERN conclusions will start making the rounds shortly.
According to Chris Mathews, repubs are in danger of being the non-science party - based on our luddite attitudes toward MMGW and evolution. What a pompous dolt. I wonder if he’s good with Scientology?


1,772 posted on 09/07/2011 8:00:41 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: shield
>> Perry did very very well...I know they are disappointed on how well he did do.<<

From this debate he’s out on SS and he’s out on the border. He lost huge voting blocks on both issues.

1,773 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:11 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Eagle Eye
It is a perfectly correct and acceptable term.

It is acceptable. However, until tonight when I looked it up--I have never been called an Anglo. I always thought Anglo was a white protestant. It must be a regional thing. I think white would be more mainstream and more inclusive.

1,774 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:34 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: Palmetto Patriot

Thanks!


1,775 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:41 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Jedidah

Thank you Jedidah, I hope everyone will read your post. So many, in other states, have no understanding of the history of Texas and the problems we face here.


1,776 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:43 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Coldwater Creek; Jim Robinson

Why do you quote Holy Scripture in your tagline, while you insult a fellow Christian at the same time?

I am the wife of a 26 year Air Force Veteran who served in the current war.

Neither I nor my veteran husband are FOOLS.

AND WE WILL VOTE FOR WHOM EVER WE WANT!


1,777 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:43 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Sarah Palin 2012 "Not For Sale!")
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To: Jedidah

Nice to know JHolder is into protection of Gerbils.


1,778 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:55 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: FourtySeven

LOL!

Yeah, it was a pretty short clip.


1,779 posted on 09/07/2011 8:02:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: CynicalBear

Oh BS...


1,780 posted on 09/07/2011 8:02:48 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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