Posted on 09/06/2011 7:56:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Its been three years since former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin made her splash onto the national stage as Sen. John McCains running mate in the 2008 presidential election. And since then she has acquired a very loyal following. But is that helping or hurting her?
On Tuesdays The OReilly Factor, conservative columnist and author of Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America, Ann Coulter expressed her concern over the Palin phenomenon. She was asked by substitute host Laura Ingraham if Palin can maintain her status as a tea party favorite by stringing people along about her potential 2012 candidacy.
Maybe not, Coulter said. Newt Gingrich carried it on for 15 years and I kind of think that might be what were getting here, largely because of the polls. I mean, you just showed the Fox News poll, Gallup took a poll, I dont know five, six months ago, showing that not quite as high as 74 percent, but 65 percent said they would never definitely, positively, ever vote for Sarah Palin I might add, that oh, its the medias fault and they attacked her and saw her as a threat, all of which I believe is true.
Coulter pointed out that conservatives are reluctant to criticize Palin for fear of a backlash and spoke about her own experiences.
Most Americans dont want Sarah Palin for president, Coulter continued. But shes become sort of the Obama of the tea party. Shes just the one to a certain segment of right-wingers and the tiniest criticism of her, I think many of your viewers may not know this no conservative on TV will criticize Palin because they dont want to deal with the hate mail. You say her voice is a few octaves too high or perhaps Michele Bachmans speaking voice is more modulated and you will be inundated with enraged emails.
But Coulter said that the loyal following Palin has could be a liability in the long run.
No, I agree and I think shes terrific at what she does, but I tend to agree with you, Coulter said. I got sick of it with Newt Gingrich too, fish or cut bait because you are ginning up this group of Americans who will not even consider anyone else. You know, we used to all love Sarah Palin conservatives like me for her enemies. Im starting to dislike her because of her fans
I think shes bright, but her good points do not seem to be in the direction of running for president. I sort of wish just like Newt Gingrich, just run so we can get this over with.
Palin has had a 3 year colonoscopy. The others are in the waiting room for theirs. At this point nothing is certain. But their wagons are hitched and full of spite.
Coulter now has a history.
Romney
Christie
No attacks on any other candidates,,,not even nut bag Paul....but she slams not only Palin, but her conservative base.
The worm has turned on Coulter.....ironically, some of you have used Palin supporting McCain as proof she is not conservative (despite the obvious Pres/VP thing).
Where art though Coulter slams PDS’rs?
How is Coulter a conservative, she looks like a total RINO with the Christie thing. She should just come out in more ways than one. lol
No they didn’t, not even close!
RCP 4 years ago today:
Giuliani-28
Thompson-17
Romney-13.8
McCain-10.4
Huckabee-3.6
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html
I proved your original premise to be incorrect.
Have a nice day.
You can't, and that's the problem.
I proved your original premise to be incorrect.
No you didn't. My premise is that many Palin fans are annoying. To counter that, you presented the posts of an annoying anti-Palin fan. That proved nothing. Just because Palin has annoying detractors does not mean she does not have annoying supporters.
NYT/CBS News* 09/04 - 09/09 Adults 18 -- -- McCain +18.0
USA Today/Gallup 09/07 - 09/08 425 LV 15 5 1 McCain +10.0
Rasmussen 09/05 - 09/08 600 LV 12 6 -- McCain +6.0
ABC News/Wash Post 09/04 - 09/07 Adults 18 5 1 McCain +13.0
Rasmussen 08/23 - 08/26 600 LV 12 -- -- McCain +12.0
Like I said that’s true of all the candidates. I repeat, let me know when Coulter writes a column about them. Maybe then she will have some credibility.
In the 08 election I got exit polled by AP. When I said I voted Mc/Palin, the pollster stopped writing. Kept asking questions, just stopped marking the answers.
I suppose that little slip of honesty in doing her job was unique in the history of polling.
14 months out means nothing. If you think Palin would have those same vaunted numbers a year from now, you are not having a serious discussion. You are not being a ‘messenger’ you are being willfully argumentative.
“RCP 4 years ago today:
Giuliani-28
Thompson-17
Romney-13.8
McCain-10.4
Huckabee-3.6”
Great post. Chee, people making things up again...who said that?
President Giuliani is as effective as Carter’s second term...oh wait....the Poll Cultists are alive and well.
Post removed and poster banned - it must have been pretty bad.
Funny, I don’t remember that. Post the links.
You'd think that folks would be more wary of polling results after seeing them go so wildly off the mark in the past, but unfortunately, some people still cling to the belief that they tell the gospel truth.
It's a real pleasure to see your chosen candidate doing well in the polls, but what happens when your candidate loses the one poll that really matters? Do you learn a lesson from that, or not? Apparently, some don't.
Well, the RCP average poll average on Election Day 2008 was accurate to 3 tenths of a percent. 14 months out polls are probably wrong, but the RCP average has been freakishly accurate.
No you are reading them wrong and posting the wrong numbers.
The numbers in my post are the RCP average from 4 years ago today.
By the way you can click on that same link everyday to get the numbers from 4 years ago to the day as we move forward.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html
Norm here are the real numbers in case you missed it up thread:
RCP 4 years ago today:
Giuliani-28
Thompson-17
Romney-13.8
McCain-10.4
Huckabee-3.6
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html
Abc Poll (May 1980)- Carter Leads Reagan 58% to 40%. 18% Spread
Polls are snapshots in time. The day after they are printed, they are worthless.
A mere 6 months out....Carter had it in the bag.
The average American doesn’t clue in until very close to the election...everybody is not a political crazy like we are. Heck, we are in a moribund economy and most people will watch the Packers/Saints game and not many will watch the GOP Debate either.
“Well, the RCP average poll average on Election Day 2008 was accurate to 3 tenths of a percent. 14 months out polls are probably wrong, but the RCP average has been freakishly accurate.”
That was my assertion to begin with. That Polls 14 months out are not accurate. Had you just admitted that to begin with we could have saved a lot of time ;)
My point was: Post 349 IT AIN'T JUST PALIN SUPPORTERS.
Coulter supports Christie and has supported Romney. She is a Palin detractor and NOT unbiased.
Hey, did you see the meat-eating horses thread?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2774579/posts
I believe you about zebras. So I’m stealing that pic, LOL!
They cling to the polls that support their POV. Human nature. ;-)
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