Posted on 09/02/2011 2:24:52 PM PDT by NYer
September 1, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In the course of drilling Rick Santorum on homosexuality, CNN’s Piers Morgan accused the presidential candidate’s views of “bordering on bigotry” and challenged him as a fellow Catholic with different beliefs on the issue.
“I guess one of the reasons it’s troubling and difficult for people to come out [as gay] is because of the level of bigotry that’s out there against them. I have to say that your views you espoused on this issue are bordering on bigotry, aren’t they?” Morgan asked the candidate.
“I think just because we disagree on public policy, which is what the debate has been about which is marriage, doesn’t mean that it’s bigotry,” replied Santorum.
“Are you suggesting that the Bible and that the Catholic Church is bigoted? Well, if that’s what you believe, fine. I think that—I shouldn’t say ‘fine!’ ... Saying a church is bigoted because it holds that opinion that is Biblically based I think is in itself an act of bigotry,” he said.
“Well, I’m a Catholic, too,” Morgan responded. “I just think, unfortunately, we’re in a different era. We’re in a modern world.”
“Piers, I don’t think the truth changes. I don’t think right and wrong change based on different eras of time,” Santorum responded.
Later, before an audience of students at Pennsylvania State University, Santorum fumed over the charge of bigotry for upholding Catholic teaching on marriage as between a man and a woman.
I had Piers Morgan call me a bigot, because I believe what the Catholic Church teaches with respect to homosexuality. I’m a ‘bigot’! Santorum exclaimed.
“And, of course, we dont elect bigots to office, we dont give them professional licenses, we dont give them preferential tax treatment. If youre a preacher and you preach bigoted things, you think youre going to be allowed to have a 501(c)3 as a church? Of course not.
The exchange was picked up on the Catholic blogosphere, where commentators criticized Morgan for targeting the basic tenets of the Catholic Catechism.
“It was the equivalent of a frustrated child resorting to name calling,” Deacon Keith Fournier wrote on Catholic Online.
Bill Donohue of the Catholic League decried what he called “obvious Catholic-baiting.”
“If this is what weve come down tocultural elites branding every person who holds to the traditional understanding of marriage as a bigotthen its a clear indication that the elites are incapable of rational discourse,” said Donohue.
Lorianne: “Santorum may indeed be a bigot, but if so, so is Morgan.”
Not quite, because Santorum isn’t trying to use Piers Morgan’s views to ridicule and, hopefully, silence him. That’s why Mr. Morgan brought the issue up. He wasn’t honestly and politely searching for Santorum’s opinion. He was on a witch hunt to damage Santorum’s campaign.
A bigot isn’t just someone who thinks their views are right. A bigot, by definition, is someone who is intolerant toward different views. What’s tolerance?
tol·er·ance
The ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with: “religious tolerance”.
So you see, Santorum is not a bigot. The left throws the “bigot” word around a lot, but from my experience it more often applies to them than us. We’re not the ones who want to turn Christians into hate criminals.
DGHoodini: “Will Republicans never learn to recognize typical retarded liberal PervoBigots, and NOT go on their freak shows, or even their lying scum networks?”
Christ didn’t avoid sinners and neither should we.
Lorianne: “If on is calling someone a bigot because they do not agree with their position, then it is mirrored back on the accuser ... per the dictionary definition.”
Ah, I see you and I agree. Bigot is misused all the time. A bigot is, in fact, someone who uses the pejorative, “bigot” to silence someone who they disagree with.
Santorum’s answer was exactly right. Right and wrong don’t ‘change with the times.’ Trust doesn’t change with the times. Morgan needs a serious examination of conscience. He’s acknowledging that his beliefs are built on the shifting sands of what’s popular.
“Santorum is a smart guy and way underrated in my opinion. I would love a Perry/Santorum ticket.”
I agree! Santorum would be my first choice if the numbers were different. We need more like him who live according to principle and virtue.
“Catholics are not the only anti homosexual denomination..insofar as teachings.”
Actually, the Church is not anti-homosexual....but rather...pro-chastity and healthy, whole, virtuous relationships.
;-)
!) Let's use the words that fit: Marxists and communists.
2) The Marxists would **kill** us if they could. They just can't get away with it....( yet). That would be the ultimate form of silencing us.
3) Morgan is a Useful Idiot. He is failing to heed Yuri Besmenov’s warning. The first people the communist leadership had lined up against the wall and shot were the Useful Idiots.
You have no idea how much! It's the only bullet in their gun. They have no facts, or logic, on their side, and I dispute the idea that they are compassionate at heart.
Ignore their charges of racism, or bigotry, and they react like monkeys in the zoo.
Yes, of course, that doesn’t work when the sodomy is celebrated as it is increasingly among many churches.
What a liberal, ludicrous, self-defeating EXCUSE you make for Catholic fecklessness!!!!
Liberals hide behind the "...we can't judge..." pablum!
We have been entrusted to protect and nurture the Church, not to sit back and allow it to be diluted by evil men like Piers Morgan!
Your attitude is EXACTLY what is wrong with the Catholic Church today!
You are right that We have been entrusted to protect and nurture the Church.
We do it against the evil actions and hope and pray that people will follow God. We do by leading Christ-like lives.
It is diluted by all Catholics that do not follow Christ.
His words would be meaningless if all Catholics truly practiced their religion. He is a false messenger. I don’t listen to him or CNN.
I.To gain the happiness of heaven we must know, love, and serve God in this world. Man must know, love and serve God in a supernatural manner in order to gain happiness of heaven. Man is raised to the supernatural order only by grace, a free gift of God.
II.We learn to know, love, and serve God from Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who teaches us through the Catholic Church.
it’s rhetorical
I don’t know how all this happened
when I was little back in the 60s, queerness was just that...queer..in Mississippi it was “quore”..like odd
and it was relegated to privacy and was only out in the open in the French Quarter..2 hours and change from my home
men practiced it..as did lesbians..and they associated..but privately and with some discretion
i remember a home in the nice part of Jackson..Eastover area where a group of homosexual men shared a home...a Frank Loyd Wright looking flat prairie home ..big place with 5-6 guys from 20s to my age (50s)
all professional..one was a doctor and another an architect..nobody cared...they shopped at the grocery where I bagged and stocked and tipped well and were cordial and not snobby..but dressed immaculate
anyhow...those days are long gone eh
Agreed. However, allowing someone like Piers Morgan to call themselves Catholic is inviting evil into the Church, not protecting it.
Piers Morgan is a is not trying to follow the Church, he is trying to transform it into a den of evil. Tolerating his presence is unacceptable.
One of the things I have learned, is that I cannot change others except with the Truth and by example. And that is hard to do.
People have free will and they get stuck in their ways and God allows people to do and say the wrong things.
The devil comes in many forms and our belief in God is what will turn him away. The Church is strong and will survive. Some of our strongest supporters are those that have seen the Light and Truth and changed their way, such as St Paul.
The Presbyterian Church in America(PCA) and Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod(LCMS) are other denominations that agree with Jesus’ teachings on what constitutes marriage in Matthew 19:4-6 also.
God has told us that the Catholic Church will survive to the end of time.
However, other churches are not doing so well:
[We must] talk of hard financial issues and church decline and growth, to address elephants in the room, and to speak truth to one another in love.” Executive Council of the Episcopal Church A month long investigation by Virtueonline into the numerical state of The Episcopal Church reveals that more than one third of all 6825 Episcopal parishes in the U.S. have an average Sunday attendance (ASA) of 40 or less. VOL believes that the figure of 2.3 million Episcopalians, regularly stated by TEC leaders and officials, does not reveal the true state of church attendance.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2770106/posts
Piers Morgan is a Christh8r.
If God is so good, why does he let people profit off the harm done to others?
So, Rick gets the Christine O’Donnell treatment from Piers Morgan.
But, but, she’s a flake, looney and a witch.... /s
I had no idea that Santorum, who I support wholeheartedly, is a Catholic. Maybe that’s a good thing.
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