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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 31 July 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 31 July 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/31/2011 5:13:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



July 31st, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; Gene Sperling, director, National Economic Council.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser David Plouffe; Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., chair, Republican Policy Committee, Finance Committee; Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho; former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; Sen. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): McConnell; Schumer; Gene Sperling, director, National Economic Council; Mark Zandi, chief economist, Moody's Analytics.


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To: Alas Babylon!
Bottom line, economy is not going to improve until he is gone

While that is true I am reminded of a few words that Rush uttered last week, don't recall which day but he applauded the new Tea Party Pats in the House for holding the line and forcing Boner to at least come up with more spending cuts than he originally put forth.

Boehner is old school. He was always taught to compromise and look for the deal while our new Tea Party Pats, as Rush noted, can't be bribed,bullied, don't care about committee assignments, can't be told to tow the party line or else, and don't give a ____(expletive deleted) about whether or not the get reelected!!!

IN a word they are bullet proof conservatives and Rush noted that and saluted them.I salute them as well.

41 posted on 07/31/2011 6:05:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I still maintain that, if the economy remains this bad by early next year, Obama will be forced to not seek a 2nd term -- by the Dems. [Shades of LBJ]

They know they can't win if unemployment is still well over 8%, the recession is continuing, etc. Their only 'blessing' at present is that inflation/interest rates have stayed low and off the radar.


42 posted on 07/31/2011 6:07:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All….

As always, thank you AB, for doing this thread, dependably, admirably, silently and stalwartly.

Hot as Hades here in the swamps of Delaware but August 1st looms. Soon will be Labor Day and then the tourists shall return home. The roads nearby will again be safe, the grass will turn from brown to green, cooler air will come in. I would, even and at this point, almost welcome the hurricanes soon to come.

All this past week, as granddaughter paid a surprise visit for four days and from which I have survived, I did, as expected, pay close attention to the debt ceiling/balanced budget/Boehner/Reid drama of the past week. Also, as expected and sometimes even welcomed, I have an opinion.

So here’s my quick and dirty summary. It began with what the Blue Blood Ruling Class GOP thought was a tossed bone to the Tea Party types recently elected in a massive wave to America’s House. It was called CCB, “Cap, Cut and Balance”. The House voted it through handily, even with some Democrat help. The senate voted to table the thing, assholes all, but the Repubs all voted AGAINST tabling. So far, so good. The pubs stand united, look brave, stand touch. Spines of rubber, we must dream, were turning to spines of resin almost.

As it would turn out, the CCB thing was considered a bit of pathos to appease the Tea Party types….recall please that EIGHTY FIVE new Representatives in America’s House were replacement of incumbents because America was not kidding. At the time it was the only way available for ordinary citizens who carry this country on our backs, could let our legislators that what with Obamacare and ceaseless spending, we were mad. It was a tidal wave overthrow.

Only evidently the congress thought it would be business as usual….as in...aren’t those Tea Party types cute...God bless.

So Speaker of the House, John Boehner comes up with the REAL bill as intended right along no mind that dream bill existing only in the minds of the Tea Party types. His bill, as considered a victory by the Blue Blood GOP types, was to keep new spending (ie...increase taxes) to a minimum, with luck remove any talk of such a thing completely.

But whoa! The Tea Party types in America’s House were having none of it. Well sure the elected ruling class, both Dems and Repubs, covered their mouths and smirked at any notion that these upshots were going to somehow make them produce a balanced budget and all the work with that. Much less put some kind of cap on the debt ceiling because they’d already increased the debt by 3+ some trillion during the Obama admin, they wanted some 4 trillion more...perish the thought you should limit what we want to spend. Finally, cut expenses...heh. Yeah well, the Ruling Class sniffed. We’ll cut expenses over the next ten years, smirk, smirk, by which time the Tea Party will be dead or too old to remember such silly stuff.

Lots of drama as the Ruling Class GOP inside-the-beltway types sniffed on Thursday, spelling out, sniff sniff….witness Charles Krauthammer who resembles the main character in Despicable ME I must smile….”by tonight Boehner will push his (version 2) bill through the House, the Tea Party types will be appeased, and on it will go.”

Bill Kristol, Kathryn Hamm, even Laura Ingraham….all day Thursday pooh poohing much to the effect of my paraphrase above…”the Tea Party types just need to appease their base”….the wise pundits inside-the DC beltway told.

BWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Every damn one of them got it wrong. Listen to them guys, they know everything. Insert smirk here.

The Tea Party guys in the House, bloodied, beaten, reduced in number until even one=ce admired West called the Tea Party schizophrenics...trust that guy again why don’t you?

But they insisted that Boehner send it through again, a version three if you will, but put the BALANCED BUDGET back in.

Politicians with principles, folks, it’s stopped the punditry Ruling Class dead in their tracks.

Now I know there’s much skepticism about a balanced budget requirement but you gotta start somewhere. We complain endlessly that the pubs, they never start ANYWHERE. “Wait until 2012,” they tell us. Or we should wait until we have a repub prez, or wait until we have over half the House, or wait until a majority in the senate, oops, now we need 60 for the filibusters. Hold on, gotta give the gop prez one full time as to not jeopardize chances for re-election.

We now have almost 70% of the country in favor of a balanced budget (BB), we have a negotiating sticking point (extending debt limit), we have the attention of the country.

WHEN THE HELL IS GOOD ENOUGH IF NOT NOW???

How the Dems gonna justify NOT wanting a BB? Everybody has to balance the budget, even if not until at the darn checkout line but it’s simple, we get it, you got much to spend and so much to spend it on. Gotta make choices, take out a loan which adds loan payments, or adjust the intake/outflows. All of the states, every business including snow ball stands, every household...has to, ahem, balance the budget. Why should we keep on allowing the feds to spend what they want, when they want...forever and ever? What kind of way is that to run a country?

“It’s too much work to balance a big federal budget,” the Ruling Class GOP, aghast at the turn of events. “Besides there’s wars and natural disasters,” they warn, eyes big, scared, shivering that the Tea Party types are dragging them screaming and sobbing with spines now reduced to chewing gum.

Lookit, you can sit all day and list the reasons why something CAN’T be done. In fact, instead of doing something, take up the time listing the reasons why NOT to do it...why not?

There’s ways around everything. Sometimes you gotta expect more out of people, maybe to do the right thing. I’m thinking if 2/3 of the states pass a BB amendment, the politicos might get a clue.

I don’t suppose this BB thing will become part of the raising the debt ceiling package. But give the Tea Party types credit. Like the Democrats/libs who defeat us every time, they struck when the iron was hot. They got the issue before the public instead of shutting scared mouths and struggling to keep the status quo. Turning this ship of state and its 285 million passengers is a slow process.

You gotta start somewhere.

I been telling you people about the struggle here in Delaware, the awful time normal law-abiding, country loving citizens have been getting, not from the opposition party. For the GOP Ruling Class elite does not fight the Democrats but they’ll beat the hell out of who?

THEIR OWN DAMN BASE!

It’s a start, folks, but don’t give up. Although I admit I gave up so many times.

This country has been taken over by a broad spectrum of Ruling Class tyrants, all of them anxious to keep their niche in the world of polished nails, perfectly appointed head hairs. They continue the status quo though the status quo is going to destroy us.

Hang in there.


43 posted on 07/31/2011 6:07:35 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/201102/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I agree that the Speaker has managed to illuminate the spending problem in D.C. If he had been successful with CCB the One would have been guaranteed reelection as the economy would definitely rebound in the next 15 months.
Obama, by winning this battle, will lose the war (his reelection. The deal he has made to pile up more debt between now and November, 2012 unfortunately will thrust our Country deeper in depression.


44 posted on 07/31/2011 6:08:26 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: shalom aleichem

Some idiot from Move-on (down into more debt) now on c-spam telling everyone that all we need to do is take more from the rich and all will be well. That we really are not broke we just need to rape the rich a little more. Truly hilarious the way they think, if you can call it that.


45 posted on 07/31/2011 6:08:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Zeros job approval is down to 40%. Maybe some are noticing that he really is no leader having not put forth a budget in over 800 days and not having the guts to put forth anything in writing vis a vi the debt ceiling.


46 posted on 07/31/2011 6:10:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
This collapse of course was hidden by the commiestablishmedia who blamed it all on evil George Bush while they painted their messiah as the savior of the economy with his godlike image.

Good article bray. I wish I could have blamed the previous supervisor for several years when I took my current job, BUT I owned the all the problems from day one.


47 posted on 07/31/2011 6:10:54 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either. Holder hates Texas too.)
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To: Roccus

It is what they did,Tea Party Pats are a whole new breed...so far.


48 posted on 07/31/2011 6:13:43 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Some idiot from Move-on (down into more debt) now on c-spam telling everyone that all we need to do is take more from the rich and all will be well.


Walter Williams puts the lie to that solution in this excellent article:

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/568737/201104111831/Tax-The-Rich-Good-Luck-With-That.aspx


49 posted on 07/31/2011 6:14:16 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Alas Babylon!

What you say looks logical until you consider a poll from CNN(yeah I know the commie net) that shows over 50% blame us for the debt ceiling deal not going through.


50 posted on 07/31/2011 6:16:04 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: All

GREAT NEWS!

Wallace isn’t there today.


51 posted on 07/31/2011 6:17:10 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Miss Marple

Oh, yes, our exports are bargains now for many other countries. You are helping our balance of trade!


52 posted on 07/31/2011 6:18:28 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: rodguy911

It’s probably too late, but next time the GOP needs to consistently use terms people in the general public understand.

debt ceiling = credit limit
debt = amount we owe
deficit = amount we put on credit card each month

Because we are not using terms everyone in the country is familiar with, it is easy for the media and the democrats to confuse people.


53 posted on 07/31/2011 6:19:17 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Right now the stage is set and it is critical the Repubs repeat the reasons we are in the crisis we are in. We are the ones who have been warning if you pass these wealth transfer bills there won’t be any wealth left to transfer which would lead to a debt crisis. We are the ones who demanded an audit and reform of Fannie and Freddie or there could be a severe crash which would risk the taxpayers of the US. We were called racists, homophobes and every other name the libs use to make us back down and agree…er…compromise to their demands. We have been right and they have created this disaster so how about once we not shrink to their tactics and let them know who the commie tyrants are and we are willing to risk the election to stand up to their antics for once. That would be a breath of fresh air and the next election would be a landslide of revolutionary proportions. The commies have been exposed and will be for eighteen more months and then we will have patriots in charge to finally turn these America hating 60’s marxist radicals out to the ash heap where they belong. America will then begin the long road back to Freedom. Pray for America ======================= Bray, great post per usual...I sense some "sunken heart" in your post today. If we unify, our side, and go over the MSM heads, we will prevail...we have to talk to the people in all the means necessary, and I suggest and hope Boehner, no matter how we malign him, that he actually do something "of a LOUD and uncharacteristically boisterous" message today so the MSM will have to carry it and show it. If he is calm, they'll ignore it and the tree will have fallen in the forest and no one heard it. I remind everyone of Psalm 22: 27-31...an understated Psalm behind Psalm 23...hidden gem: 27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations will bow down before him, 28 for dominion belongs to the LORD and he rules over the nations. 29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship; all who go down to the dust will kneel before him— those who cannot keep themselves alive. 30 Posterity will serve him; future generations will be told about the Lord. 31 They will proclaim his righteousness, declaring to a people yet unborn: He has done it!
54 posted on 07/31/2011 6:20:26 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: NautiNurse

Yesterday I heard a news item that one in six of every dollar in the Illinois budget is Federal money.

That is disgusting and should be criminal, if it isn’t already.

Talk about unsustainable!


55 posted on 07/31/2011 6:20:44 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: rodguy911
Maybe some are noticing that he really is no leader


56 posted on 07/31/2011 6:21:10 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rodguy911
But once again, what actually happened? NO BILL that Boehner could pass through the House was going to pass through the Senate. It is either stalemate or the dems “win”.

If it was stalemate then you and I know the dems, Obama and the driveby’s will have a hammer they will use to blame conservatives with every day until the election. A stalemate will actually hurt us.

The issue is we only control one side in Congress and we NEED both to effect chance that will improve things. Better yet, both sides and the White House. But that is only a wish for us because right now we DO NOT.

Sure, I admire and support the TEA party firebrands in the House and like Recovering Ex-Hippie said, their fighting for us is keeping the whole thing on the front burner where EVERYONE can see it, even those who usually don't pay attention to this stuff.

But let's stop calling Boehner “Boner” and a cry baby and a terrible Speaker because his job is to see the legislation passed out of the House is going to be seen as favorable to the people, even if it's DOA because of the dems. Right now the Drvieby’s are trying their hardest to paint him and the Republicans as no compromising ideologues who are hurting the country. Meanwhile, FReepers are calling him a RINO and a closet dem because he trying to limit the damage, knowing full well anything the House does will be spiked. It's a no win situation. We need to see that because it is the truth. Conservatives are supposed to think things through and not emote like democrats!

No matter what is passed in the House Harry Reid is not going to let it get a vote if it looks good for “our side”. Now I think our side is RIGHT on economic matters and their side is dead wrong.

Their side is plunging us in deeper. By next year it will not only be truly apparent (and I really do think it is almost there in most thinking people's minds) but now their side, Obama and Reid own it lock, stock and barrel. They won this fight. The TEA Party is wrong, the driveby and dems keep telling us. The President “has a plan”.

But it is all bull $hit. It isn't going to work. Their victory is really a hole they can't stop digging. And by “defeating” us it puts us in a prime spot coming up next election. This could in fact, hurt the Lefts chances for a decade or more because they are so oblivious to how they are killing the economy.

57 posted on 07/31/2011 6:23:19 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich is making an appearance. Now that NASA has retired the Space Shuttles (The 1975 Cutlass of the Space Program), Detroit is recycling other old models that should be bronzed and put in a museum, rather than relied on for anything useful.

And speaking of useful, now that NASA is no longer doing anything useful, why don't we just defund it?

58 posted on 07/31/2011 6:23:27 AM PDT by Bernard (When the only Problem is overspending, all the Solutions look like TAX INCREASES to liberals...)
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To: rodguy911
It is what they did,Tea Party Pats are a whole new breed...so far.

Like the 6 GOPers who waited until the YEAs were at 218 to cast their inconsequential NO votes the other day in the House? I wouldn't want them for foxhole buddies.
Matter of fact, I'm even suspicious of the other 16 as well. Congresscritters KNOW how to count votes. How many of the first 16 already knew their NO votes would do no harm to the Boner bill...inquiring minds will NEVER know.

59 posted on 07/31/2011 6:26:28 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Sperling: “...what the President inherited ...”

[Still making excuses. Still lacking Oval Office leadership.]

Sperling: Still blaming events — Japanese earthquake — Middle East unrest, fuel prices, and such.


60 posted on 07/31/2011 6:30:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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