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Unbelievable: TV Reporter Mocks Romney's Mormonism
Commentary ^ | July 7, 2011

Posted on 07/09/2011 6:52:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

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To: secondamendmentkid
Most people will tell you that the Mormons they know are well meaning, honest individuals (of course except for Harry Reid) that DO NOT proselytize or mock other religions.

I thought that they were the most organized, mandatory proselytizers around, even Mitt Romney devoted 2 years to it, most of us run into them all the time.

By the way, isn't admitting that you get on threads to "stir the pot" admitting to trolling, to wasting FR time, to even making misleading or insincere posts in an effort to troll and disrupt?

381 posted on 07/10/2011 6:51:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Spiff; Jim Robinson
You pusillanimous prick, you threw a rock at Jim Robinson and I am stepping in front of it. You're being the typical whining LDS sprocket. Your spittling sounds more like spaceman spiff than a grown person. Courtesy ping, Mister Robinson.
382 posted on 07/10/2011 7:12:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: T.L.Sink

I used to think I could vote for a Mormon. But after some thought, I figured, “If he’s stupid enough to fall for Joseph Smith’s made-up religion, then he’s too stupid to be President.” Not sure I could vote for someone who really believes all that silliness.

FWIW, IMHO.


383 posted on 07/10/2011 7:17:04 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: reaganaut
"...mormon prostilzation..."

You likely mean "proselytizing," as in to "attempt to convert."

8^D

384 posted on 07/10/2011 7:55:22 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: MHGinTN

LOL. Thank you for proving my point.


385 posted on 07/10/2011 8:13:02 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff

You’re a bitter little person, Spiff. Your only point seems to be your hatred for FR now that Mitt Romney is revealed to be such a feckless rino and is a Mormon. If you had a point, perhaps you would not have thrown stones at the man who started this place and whose persona sustains it as a conservative ‘take no prisoners’ opposition to rinoism. Get lost, creep. I’m sure you can find a FARMS or FAIR LDS site more to your tastes.


386 posted on 07/10/2011 8:17:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Gargantua

The LDS have a little army of fifty thousand plus serving two year stints doing nothing but proselytizing.


387 posted on 07/10/2011 8:19:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: mountainbunny
"We" don't dislike Romney. "We" know that he's an immoral weasel who will do and say anything to get himself elected. "We" don't respect him or anything he stands for."

"Additionally, "We" don't dislike Mormonism. "We" think that it's an immoral religion which makes gods of men and denies the unique divinity of Jesus. "We" are very upfront about this."

"Christians do not defend Mormonism."

bears repeating...

388 posted on 07/10/2011 8:19:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: Gargantua

Yes, I did. I’m sorry, it has been a long day and my spell check isn’t working.


389 posted on 07/10/2011 8:20:36 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: hinckley buzzard
CAn't say that I ever have.

Why?

390 posted on 07/10/2011 8:22:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: oneamericanvoice

3 lefts do.


391 posted on 07/10/2011 8:23:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: oneamericanvoice
It was a hit piece because there was no background, no context about those specific points.

Hmmm...

I see what you mean...


So is THIS what a 'hit piece' looks like??


Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" ( 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" ( 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" ( 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" ( 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (, vol. 2, p.196).
 

392 posted on 07/10/2011 8:24:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Romney isn’t running for chief Mormon.

Wanna bet?

393 posted on 07/10/2011 8:25:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Spiff

“Mormons that I knew here - hard-working Christian conservatives - have been driven off of this site.”

1. No mormon was driven off who did not violate the rules. If they left because they took offense when someone posted from their writings, then they made their own decision. There were other decisions they could have made.

2. You referred to Mormons as Christian. Oxymoron.

Every conservative of every kind is welcome here... until they start to insult FReepers, violate rules,
use caucus designations to attack Christianity, become RINOmney pimps, etc.

You habitually refer to “mormon-bashing”. I never an individual mormon FReeper “get bashed”. I see people point out the truth about mormonism, the false religion.

ampu


394 posted on 07/10/2011 8:27:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: Gargantua
I think you're borderline psychotic, and I'm neither qualified nor disposed to give you therapy.

Just a diagnostician; eh?


Here is WHY I even responded to you:

(I guess like the whole Mormon faith did their belief up until the 1970's that "blacks" or "negroes" were the people the Bible referred to as having "the mark of the Devil" on them).
It appeared as though YOU were saying it was found in the bible.

Thank you for clarifying that the MORMONs said it was found it the Bible.

395 posted on 07/10/2011 8:37:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: InvisibleChurch
A large percentage on FR mock Mormonism.

And with such GLEE; too!


 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


396 posted on 07/10/2011 8:42:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: InvisibleChurch
A large percentage on FR mock Mormonism.

You see; we Flying Inmen have done multiple shifts in the barrel; hardening our sensitive egos against all manner of insults; from all manner of posters, for all manner of reasons.

CAll us a BIGOT: we don't care.

CAll us a Hater: we don't care.

CAll us a Mocker: we don't care.

CAll us deceitful: we say, "PROVE IT."

CAll us a LIAR: we say, "SHOW THEM."

CAll us non-contextual posters : we say, "YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO POST IN CONTEXT: USE IT."





Have I left anything out, other than...

"You guys keep bringing up the past. We ain't like that any more."

We say, "Show us the WRITINGS of the CHURCH that supercedes what we have posted about your history."

397 posted on 07/10/2011 8:49:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gondring
Wasn’t he arrested for fraud (for claiming he could find treasure with “magic stones”) before he fled NYS?

You may be a Hateful BIGOT for even MENTIONING this!

--MormonDude(He never went to jail over it!)

398 posted on 07/10/2011 8:51:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
He was also tarred and feathered for trying to seduce a teenage girl.

At least THAT is biblical (kinda)!

Matthew 22:14

"Many are tarred; but few are feathered."

399 posted on 07/10/2011 8:53:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

“Many are tarred; but few are feathered.”

- - - —
ROFL. That is a tagline waiting to happen.


400 posted on 07/10/2011 9:02:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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