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1 posted on 06/13/2011 3:12:35 PM PDT by tobyhill
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Make the “government” knows best PROVE that the government got anything right about future jobs from a PAST “Jobs Outlook” that they print.

They are incapable of knowing what the future jobs are as a future earthquake is going to strike.


27 posted on 06/13/2011 3:33:43 PM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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So let me see if I understand mac, the liar, daddy correctly:

The first half of his squatting in the whitehouse he sinks the economy, puts people out of work, bails out, with the tax payers money, union jobs, sells American land to prop up his moronic ideas, gets down on his knees in front of those who state that they would kill American’s if given the chance and now is has an idea on how to save America.

This POS is so arrogant that he thinks that the American voters will believe anything he says or does.

Words escape me for ANYONE who will buy the words that come out of the mouth of this liar.


28 posted on 06/13/2011 3:34:23 PM PDT by chiefqc
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Government can't "train" engineers...you need to have The Knack.
29 posted on 06/13/2011 3:34:43 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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That stupid b@stard!

I have two, and they DON’T have jobs yet.


31 posted on 06/13/2011 3:41:44 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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Better solutions:
End differential pricing of programs like engineering and business due to their “higher income potential” that subsidizes non-productive majors.
Stop the preferential placement of foreign students at universities over American students. The logic has been that they pay more in tuition, thus subsidizing everyone else. But then they push out the children of taxpayers.
Drop a lot of the liberal arts core curriculum, helping students save money by shaving semesters off their load.


33 posted on 06/13/2011 3:45:16 PM PDT by tbw2
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That’s easy...just lower the standards.


34 posted on 06/13/2011 3:47:38 PM PDT by Voltage
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And where will these 10,000 engineers bet jobs. We already have 300,000 engineers out of work now. All the jobs went offshore, with NAFTA, CAFTA, and SAFTA.

Obama is nothing but rhetoric.


35 posted on 06/13/2011 3:51:35 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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I’m sure we easily produce that many every year. This is about buying votes.


37 posted on 06/13/2011 4:07:21 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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What a joke. An awful lot of the young engineers I know today don’t even have a math, science and practical background sufficient to enter college let alone become engineers.

Having more engineers to graduate 10 needs to start about fourth grade and you need teachers to start that job.

Oblabla continues to be a joke.


38 posted on 06/13/2011 4:08:32 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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I read about this earlier today, and I’m wondering...what kind of engineers? Electrical? Chemical? Paper? Mechanical? Railroad locomotive? What? It matters! Engineers are very specialized professionals (I work with a lot of PhD level people. Most are female.) Pack the fields with the wrong kind and all you do is generate a slew of loans to be repaid.


39 posted on 06/13/2011 4:11:54 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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Under the program, Obama said private companies will join the government to promote education in science, technology, engineering and math

i.e. if you can't beat 'em, join 'em...

40 posted on 06/13/2011 4:14:07 PM PDT by mikrofon (Before you're outright taken over...)
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Well, barry does need someone to drive all those high speed trains, he is building.


41 posted on 06/13/2011 4:18:03 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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I’ll bet that it involves billions of dollars to pay for the tuition of certain favored minorities to take engineering studies in college.


43 posted on 06/13/2011 4:27:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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Cheap plantation labor after all these years - Thanks professional politicians and their cronies ! /SARC


44 posted on 06/13/2011 4:30:07 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Conservative Christian Capitalists - I encourage you to visit my Profile)
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These are affirmative-actioned engineers.

It would be racist to expect Eric Holder's people to pass actual engineering courses that non-affirmative actioned engineers must pass.

And people who aren't Eric Holder's people need not apply.

46 posted on 06/13/2011 7:55:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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Obama is a moron. Half the engineers in the USA are currently out of work. What are we going to do with 10,000 more of them? The guy is an idiot.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 8:30:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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One of our younger relatives is a VP for a heavy duty construction company.

A few years ago, he and his project managers started interviewing/seeing so called engineering graduates with severe math and physic limitations. They complained to the universities and were told that their graduates were well rounded and diversified people.

One can only imagine the outcomes, when the PC 0b0z0 thugs force more black/hispanic/queer/lesbian studies into the engineering classes as well as pc hiring.

This same young relative quit a good job over a decade ago with a similiar company based out of Gay Frisco. The company had ‘promoted’ a secretary and printed up cards noting that she was an assistant project manager. Then, they demanded that our relative put her on his team and make sure she succeeded. He resigned, and that company went out of business shortly after that critical event.


50 posted on 06/14/2011 7:21:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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My neighbor across the street is a former Ford engineer. He now drives a bus for Disney World.

10,000 new engineers a year?

Disney doesn't have that many busses.

51 posted on 06/14/2011 7:24:47 AM PDT by N. Theknow (The MSM is to 0bama what the Broom-n-Scoop Detail is to a circus parade.)
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My husband is a Chemical Enginner. Obama could never pass the classes or tests you have to take to get an engineering degree.

Here is a list from Cornell Univ - courses of study for engineers. Not exactly finger painting!!!!!!!!!!

I was engaged to my husband when we were in college and he studied all the time, the classes are so hard. Our daughter is a Hydro-Geologist and took similar courses at UT. Not easy stuff, Obama couldn’t pass a freshman level Chem E course! I would bet you a trillion dollar bailout on that.

CHEME 1120 Introduction to Chemical Engineering (also ENGRI 1120)
CHEME 2190 Mass and Energy Balances (also ENGRD 2190)
CHEME 2880 Biomolecular Engineering: Fundamentals and Applications
CHEME 3010 Career Perspectives
CHEME 3130 Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics
CHEME 3230 Fluid Mechanics
CHEME 3240 Heat and Mass Transfer
CHEME 3320 Analysis of Separation Processes
CHEME 3720 Introduction to Process Dynamics and Control
CHEME 3900 Chemical Kinetics and Reactor Design
CHEME 4130 Introduction to Nuclear Science and Engineering (also AEP/ECE/MAE/NSE/TAM 4130)
CHEME 4320 Chemical Engineering Laboratory
CHEME 4620 Chemical Process Design
CHEME 4700 Process Control Strategies
CHEME 4720 Feedback Control Systems (also ECE 4720, MAE 4780)
CHEME 4800 Chemical Processing of Electronic Materials — Not Offered This Year
CHEME 4840 Microchemical and Microfluidic Systems
CHEME 4900 Undergraduate Projects in Chemical Engineering
CHEME 4980 Design and Testing of the Chemical Engineering Car
CHEME 5202 Introduction to Electronic Materials Processing (module) — Not Offered This Year
CHEME 5203 Introduction to Polymer Processing (module) — Not Offered This Year
CHEME 5204 Turbomachinery Applications (module)
CHEME 5205 Applications of Fluid Dynamics (module)
CHEME 5207 Petroleum Refining to Petroleum Exploration Production and Refining.
CHEME 5208 Renewable Resources from Agriculture—Sugarcane as a Feedstock (module)
CHEME 5209 Applied Heat Transfer
CHEME 5640 Design of Chemical Reactors
CHEME 5650 Design Project
CHEME 5720 Managing New Business Development — Not Offered This Year
CHEME 5870 Energy Seminar I (also MAE 5450, ECE 5870)
CHEME 5880 Energy Seminar II (also MAE 5460, ECE 5880)
CHEME 5999 Special Projects in Chemical Engineering
CHEME 6240 Physics of Micro- and Nanoscale Fluid Mechanics and Heat Transfer
CHEME 6310 Engineering Principles for Drug Delivery (also BME 6310)
CHEME 6400 Polymeric Materials
CHEME 6440 Aerosols and Colloids
CHEME 6560 Membrane Separations
CHEME 6610 Air Pollution Control
CHEME 6640 Energy Economics
CHEME 6650 Energy Engineering
CHEME 7110 Advanced Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics
CHEME 7130 Chemical Kinetics and Transport
CHEME 7310 Advanced Fluid Mechanics and Heat Transfer
CHEME 7410 Selected Topics in Biochemical Engineering
CHEME 7450 Physical Polymer Science I
CHEME 7510 Mathematical Methods of Chemical Engineering Analysis
CHEME 7530 Analysis of Nonlinear Systems: Stability, Bifurcation, and Continuation


52 posted on 06/14/2011 7:48:38 AM PDT by buffyt (Abortion is the ultimate CHILD ABUSE!)
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