Posted on 05/18/2011 8:29:37 PM PDT by Nachum
There are many conservative teachers sounding the alarm about the hijacking of their profession and the radicalization of school curriculums by left-wing union leaders. Exhibit A: Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis saying they’re not teachers but “education workers.”Dean Kalahar is a Sarasota, Florida high school economics teacher. On his blog, he says his guiding principles include private property rights, free market entrepreneurial capitalism and the U.S. Constitution.Kalahar recently brought attention to the new Florida high school senior exit exam, which he says will “indoctrinate children into a progressive and revisionist model critical of America.”
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The following is a **GENERAL** statement that applies to the entire institution of **all** government schools. It is NOT directed to any individual ( or relative of) any poster here on Free Republic!
**ALL** government schools in this nation are socialist-funded, collectivist and voter mob managed ( school boards), and are godless in their worldview! **ALL** of them! It does not matter where in the country they are located.
Therefore:
**Children who attend these socialist, collectivist managed and godless government institutions become comfortable with taking money from a neighbor for a service their parents want for tuition-free. In fact, their teachers teach them that they are entitled to this money taken from other by way of police threat. These children also learn to be comfortable with the collectivist voting mob controlling their lives.
Also...Children **MUST** learn to think and reason godlessly if they attend they schools. They must simply to cooperate with the classroom instruction and do assignments.
Personally, I don't know how any teacher of good conscience could cooperate with the establishment and functioning of such a spiritually and educationally corrupting institution. To use an extreme example, should guards in Nazi concentration camps actually have **volunteered** and have applied for jobs a concentration camp because they might have been able to sneak in a few crumbs of bread to the prisoners? Well?...Should God-fearing conservatives **willingly** apply for jobs at government schools so they can sneak in a few crumbs of God-centered belief or conservatism into a system that is godless and socialist to the core?
Yes, yes,...I hear that some conservatives and Christians try to sneak in some Christianity and conservatism into their classes. Yes, indeed, they are teaching a perverse lesson!
Lesson learned: Christians and conservatives are sneaky and weak.
By the way...The damage from government school started almost immediately after they were opened in the mid-1800s to early 1900s. The **PROGRESSIVE** Woodrow Wilson and the **SOCIALIST** Franklin D. Roosevelt were elected a mere one to three generations after the first socialist-collectivist-voter mob government schools opened. Why should we be surprised that our nation elected a Marxist Clinton and Obama?
And there you have it from BIG Billygoat Gruff :o)
There are a few **fundamental** services that a government must render:
** defend the borders from invasion. This includes enemy invasion and invasion by so many refugees that the culture is overwhelmed and destroyed.
** provide honest courts to enforce contracts
** put criminals in prison by means of honest police and courts.
Schools are not one of these fundamentals.
By the way, if health care is taken over by the government, yes, we will get reasonably good care for a generation or two. Just as it was in education, the high values of the health workers brought over from the private system will persist for a while. But... In a few short decades people will say the following about government health:
** If only we could go back to government medicine of the 2020’s.
** If only we could get back to health basics.
** If only conservatives ran the health system.
** Conservatives should run for the health board!
** Parents should take more responsibility.
** It's the patient’s fault!
** Gee! If we could only get doctors and nurses who had better SAT and ACT scores. Their scores are even worse than government teachers!
** We need to get the Marxists out of the medical and nursing schools.
Soon, no one will remember the time when the U.S. had the best cancer, trauma, and extreme low birth weight survivals in the history of mankind! They will have forgotten that at one time PRIVATE health care provided these excellent outcomes. They will no longer be able to even imagine a world without government health care.
look I’ve had this debate with you countless times and you always say the same.
Yet you don’;t have kids or go to a public school, irony
indeed
BTW, have you worked at a school?
Have you had kids go all the way through a school?
and the big one, do you know of all the people who send their kids to school and all the teachers?
Do you know of everyone’s lives
AND please tell me how one can fight an institution from the outside?
YOU CAN’T but hey if you think you have the right plan of sitting it out and not getting into a fight then so be it, like I’ve said before we’ve had all this out over a couple of years as you have with other posters
You can starve an institution from the outside.
Let me ask you, have you ever cleaned a mud puddle by dipping a white glove into it?
so how do you starve it?
Are you not gong to pay taxes?
well that will put you into prison.
What other way then because while things are going on, there are more and more kids told only one side because if some on here had their way no conservative could ever teach children, which in turn lets the left do their damaging work.
Maybe I see issues differently and think people need to fight face on, maybe it is because I grew up in the streets or in the military but I’ve always been told to fight head on
you can’t fight and win when you are on the outside, but I ma curious as to how you are going to stop public schools?
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You might be able to conjure the tiniest shred of credibility on the subject of education if not for your punctuation or capitalization.
ARF.
Putting a certain punctuation in the right place did not stop me from shooting and firing missiles to protect you, would it have stopped you?
So less of the insults hey.
Maybe if you phrased your opening statement that way, it wouldn't engender as much resistance and/or hostility.
OK - as long as I’m payng for what I use, I’m OK with it.
Here in northern NJ our Catholic schools are dying out, and few people could live here on one income (for home schooling).
All government owned schools in this nation are socialist funded, collectivist and voter mob managed, and ( by law) godless. There are no exceptions because this is the very definition of any government social program.
Maybe if you phrased your opening statement that way, it wouldn’t engender as much resistance and/or hostility.
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Truth often does engender hostility and resistance. That’s just too bad for those who “feel” hostile and resistant. That is their . They are the only people who can resolve the resistance and hostility by accepting and dealing with reality.
That is their .
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That should be: That is their problem.
Sorry. That whole ‘I was in the military once so you can’t counter my argument’ tactic does not fly with me. So was half my family. Plus I have spent a large part of my adult life designing toys for the folks in uniform so I like to think I am doing my part too. Don’t expect bowing and scraping and giving poor logic a pass. The argument is about education. Firing a few missiles does not prove you are edumicated nor that you have any expertise on the subject.
mmmmmmmmmmm, you jump on a thread to insult me, once it was pointed out to you that I served and who cares about punctuation to do that job you come back on and say it doesn’t fly with you because half your family served.
Notice you never did though.
I think serving was more important than putting a comma in the right place but hey you carry on making toys and feel like you’re doing your bit, ARF.
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