I believe you do...what is your take on this....
Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum
It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.
But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.
“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.
Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago
He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
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I believe you do...what is your take on this....
If Trump had not pushed him into a corner, he would still be holding on to the birth certificate, if indeed it is the real thing.
“Why would you scan the document using OCR when you have no need to edit the text? It seems funny to me why you would scan the document in this manner”......that’s what I’m thinkin’. why didn’t they release it in the simplest form possible to avoid these arguments? they were prolly d*mned if they did and d*mned if they didn’t. in the video showing how it was manipulated with the vector file, I wonner if the nerds workin’ on this for the donald, are brighter than der readers nerds, but der reader’s prolly talkin to the creators of the software.
N&V: “How do you interpret the spelling of THE as TXE in the alleged rubber stamp?”
Well, it isn’t really a very good “X” either from what I have seen.
What would be the advantage of forging an “X” instead of an “H”? Doesn’t really seem to be any good reason that I can think. The stuff you would want to forge are signatures, dates, etc. So it is possible this was just a smudge of the rubber stamp or a foreign object that got onto the stamp.
The bigger questions in my mind are the Registrar and the Dr. that signed these. I think those are the best leads to follow to determine if they are legitimate and could honestly have been able to sign this document. Most all the other data on this document has been presented on other documentation.
There is also the mystery that another poster (forget who) on FR mentioned regarding the signature dates of SAD and the doctor. Seems those are the exact same dates that were on the “forged” Kenyan B.C. that was floating around the web. Very, very coincidental that those dates would be identical since there was supposedly no exposure of this document prior to this week.
OK IF THIS LAYERING IS CAUSED BY OCR THEN WHERE IS THE TEXT?
OCR software tries to turn an image into text that is like the text you are seeing and typing here. Then you can store the text in other ways like a database, or edit it an editor like microsoft word.
STOP WITH THE OCR “explanation” - THERE IS NO OCR TEXT in this file.
I have signed many birth certificates. An attending physician would never, ever use a pseudonym to represent his signature. It is in the state of Texas...illegal. And particularly on an official document....You might use an initial in place of your full name (that is acceptible) but never ever play games with these documents. To adulterate a document like that would be a felony.
I don’t doubt the doc is from 1961, I just have doubts about the info in the doc being accurate.
I find it hard to believe that in 1961 a woman could give birth in HI and a couple of weeks later be in Washington state with the baby.
There was jet service in 1961 but it was very limited. There was still a lot of prop planes flying.
I find it very iffy that in 1961 the airlines would allow a woman with a couple of weeks old baby on a plane for that long a flight.
I'd give my left you know what to see him eat asphalt on a YT video.
I wonder what kind of effect Corsi’s book is going to add to this controversy?
Then, based on history, just take boxes of pre-numbered forms and send them out to all the locations where the forms might be needed (with a bunch of other stuff on there already typed in by cheap to hire GS2 clerks and avoid the higher expense of GS5/6/7 registered nurses).
The forms would be used as births took place, and every other form would be even or odd ~ and that's the only requirement for the number ~ that it exist.
The article you point to assumes that the bureaucrats could not figure out how to meet the sample selection criteria unless they numbered the documents after they received them.
Gaack!!!!
Forty years in the statistics racket and this is the thanks I get ~ that forms can only be numbered AFTER they are used.
Hey, that's a specious argument anyway. If you only sample Evens and Not Odds, all you need is a 1 and a 2. Half with 1 and half with 2.
No doubt the situation caused consternation in some quarters ~ but babies gotta' get born no matter what the bureaucrats do. So what you do is view this document as kind of floating around in the air as the baby-momma goes through what she goes through and think of what somebody "there" would want to do with it, and when. That's the LOWEST ENERGY COST ROUTE and odds are real good that's the way it worked. A good form designer makes sure his design matches the normal flow of work. In this case that flow is directed primarily by the needs of the uterus and the baby. I think most people have that cycle down pat and can adapt to it.
An ol'gal named Marie Eldridge worked in the predecessor to HHS (HEW at the time) and worked up forms and statistical sampling schemes for this sort of thing. She came into USPS about 1968 while I was in the service. If she's still around we could find her and ask some questions ~ bet she had a hand in this and believe me she was too cantankerous and smart to have set up a system that required punching in the document number AFTER use.
He’s tapping these threads and adjusting his text accordingly.
He’s tapping these threads and adjusting his text accordingly.
Very interesting ...
Nice find.
It’s a bit worse than you thought. Go down the left column one more time and look at lines 6e and 8. They start exactly 1/2 character in. That didn’t happen on typewriters. His sex was not entered at the same time as the other data.
They didn't want any US Postal Inspectors involved if discovered...serious Federal time.
Now there is an out for tampering, no chain of custody.
Yeah I saw that, but your counter video ripped it apart.
Nobody can seem to prove this via demonstration. I saw one layer video where a guy on the comments was claiming OCR but the layer-video creator asked him to “prove it”.
I just want to see somebody prove OCR, not tell me about it from some Obama shill, or some stupid blog.
The layer-crowd had demonstrations up within a few hours..
Now on to the Obama version of the “hearts and flowers” “love affair” between his mother and his dad. There is just so much baloney in the whole Obama narrative. Obama Sr. was supposed to have stayed around for two years, now it is looking like he may not even have been around when little Barry was born. You never see any baby pictures of Barry and Obama Sr. when he was born, only a couple of pictures of the two when Barry was ten years old and Obama Sr. came to Hawaii for a visit. So many odd things that just do not fit together.
“These two people are dumber than Sarah Palin.”
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Obviously the words of a red diaper doper baby neo-Marxist Obot.
LOL!!! Funny...
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