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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: visually_augmented; Hotlanta Mike
I crossed to Canada showing as my only ID my Draft Card ~ that was in 1966.

Just for fun I crossed back to the US that very day showing only my Draft Card.

That was at Niagara Falls Canada/USA ~ they just waved me through on both sides.

501 posted on 04/30/2011 12:05:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

RE: As someone has already posted, there doesn’t appear to be any other BC’s that originated from Kapiolani and were signed by U.K.C Lee. This adds another potential layer of mystery.

muawiyah: “we have a FREEPER on several of these threads who has posted his/her own birth certificate showing that it was signed by the same individual (same “Lee”). So that’s nothing that’s agreed upon.”


I understand that there are others that were signed by the same Lee attendant (doctor) but none that I have seen that are signed by Lee AND are recording a birth in the Kapiolani hospital as is the case with Obama. In other words, do we have a case of a potential inconsistency (a hack job)??


502 posted on 04/30/2011 12:07:23 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: little jeremiah
You have to establish that there is a marriage to get a divorce, otherwise it's an annulment.
503 posted on 04/30/2011 12:08:05 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: wideminded; Brown Deer; IMR 4350

And the memo that very conveeeniently states so much info that could not have been needed or relevant is very - conveeeenient.

But I’m sure no honest and principles gov employee would ever do anything wrong in regards to Zero’s ineligibility like doctor FOI documents, no of course not, couldn’t possibly happen.


504 posted on 04/30/2011 12:08:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: IMR 4350

He’s not eligible for about 13 reasons that I can come up with off hand.


505 posted on 04/30/2011 12:08:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: muawiyah

IMO she likely received monies from a variety of sources. The idea that she couldn’t afford travel is pretty funny.


506 posted on 04/30/2011 12:09:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bluecat6

Thanks for the response, Bluecat.

It is all so murky. Was it ever proven that he was adopted by Soetoro? Or disproven?

EVERYTHING about it - his life - is full of it.

Thanks again.

My Best,

SC


507 posted on 04/30/2011 12:10:38 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (HE must increase)
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To: bluecat6

rotflmao


508 posted on 04/30/2011 12:12:05 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: IMR 4350
We've had that one numerous times. Several lawyers have noted that you can get a divorce even if you can't prove you'd ever been married.

The rest of the verbiage is standard boilerplate ~ if you changed it to cover the possibility there'd never really been a (lawful) marriage you'd blow circuits in the stenographer's brain and it'd just go all over the place.

BTW, the babydaddy was already married to a different woman in Kenya so any marriage with Stanley Ann was void under American law. That doesn't mean shedidn't need a divorce ~ you'll notice she got custody, and if he came around again she was set to tag him out for a lot of money since "support", as so many people know, can be renegotiated!

That visit when Obama was 10? ~ I bet he was in and out the same day ~ so that's why he was hanging out at the airport.

509 posted on 04/30/2011 12:12:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: visually_augmented; muawiyah

I’ve only seen one with the UKLL and it was not a freeper, from some website. Any links?


510 posted on 04/30/2011 12:14:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: muawiyah

Of course Muslim marriages can be ended by the husband or whatever it’d be called saying I divorce you” three times so who knows.

Plus I want to see iron clad evidence of his parents anyway. As well as birthplace/time. Everything shown so far is absolutely untrustworthy.


511 posted on 04/30/2011 12:16:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: visually_augmented
Who knows ~ I hypothesized that the "Lee" signature is preceded with a different sort of appellation in flowing script Chinese. Two characters jump out the second you look at it like that. The U turns into a hook, as in fish hook, so the implication is FISH. The item folks want to see as a K is actually more like a \ and a < That < linked to the next immediate character with the loops yields a very common written symbol for MOUNTAIN.

In short, not UK()LeLee but FISH MOUNTAIN LEE ~ with some sort of stand in at the \ which I think might be a Chinese way of rendering MAN or PERSON.

Any of you folks take shorthand? I didn't but I lived with a professional steno for many years (my mother), and she could take dictation faster than folks could talk. The Chinese invented something like stenography in this flowing script method.

I'd like someone who knows either or both of the two major steno systems in America to look at that "signature" and tell us what it says. What I have here looks like "Hawaii" (fish mountain) person "Lee".

You can find many thousands of Chinese characters and script representations on the internet, so I didn't come with this out of my imagination. I went looking for the characters and they were there. Steno is different.

512 posted on 04/30/2011 12:22:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: little jeremiah
What I believe happened is this.

SAD’s parents raised her to hate America and everything about it.

SAD didn’t want her little black baby to be an American because she hated this country, so she dominoed in Canada.

SAD’s parents realized they had created a little monster that was going to deny their grand-baby American citizenship.

SAD’s parents got the hospital to fill out a BC to make it appear as if Zippo was born in HI.

HI doctors and officials were more than willing to do it to get the number of people living in HI up in order to get more rep in Washington.

513 posted on 04/30/2011 12:25:47 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: little jeremiah
Just go back through all the threads. You'll find it.

I think it's a real person who was on the staff there ~ but LEE is not just a common name in Hawaii, they actually have Lee Family Association meeting houses in possibly every town ~ just like China.

Most Lee family members create a "chop" (Chinese characters making up their full name) that takes advantage of flexibility in characters and writing techniques such that the result is UNIQUE to that person.

We also have a tradition where Chinese will typically have FOUR NAMES. Creates havoc in the credit worthiness industry which is based on record keeping and analysis at the level of only 3 names at a single address.

Doesn't work in a Chinese household!

514 posted on 04/30/2011 12:29:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum

I bet you a hundred bucks he photoshopped it.


515 posted on 04/30/2011 12:30:07 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: muawiyah

It’s hard to imagine that in 1961 registrars were allowed to use chops on a state document.


516 posted on 04/30/2011 12:31:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: autumnraine

I have read here in FR that (OCR) software is not an answer to the layered look and white around the letters. The green is there to show if it was altered. There is white around the letters. Why?


517 posted on 04/30/2011 12:32:13 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: IMR 4350

Beliefs aren’t enough.


518 posted on 04/30/2011 12:32:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

How does this “expert” explain the whited out layer?


519 posted on 04/30/2011 12:32:59 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: IMR 4350
Babysitter.

Neither the babysitter nor SAD's former high school classmates have said that she was in Seattle in August 1961.

520 posted on 04/30/2011 12:33:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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