[visually_augmented]

RE: As someone has already posted, there doesn’t appear to be any other BC’s that originated from Kapiolani and were signed by U.K.C Lee. This adds another potential layer of mystery.

muawiyah: “we have a FREEPER on several of these threads who has posted his/her own birth certificate showing that it was signed by the same individual (same “Lee”). So that’s nothing that’s agreed upon.”

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I understand that there are others that were signed by the same Lee attendant (doctor) but none that I have seen that are signed by Lee AND are recording a birth in the Kapiolani hospital as is the case with Obama. In other words, do we have a case of a potential inconsistency (a hack job)??

[little jeremiah]

I’ve only seen one with the UKLL and it was not a freeper, from some website. Any links?

[muawiyah]

Who knows ~ I hypothesized that the "Lee" signature is preceded with a different sort of appellation in flowing script Chinese. Two characters jump out the second you look at it like that. The U turns into a hook, as in fish hook, so the implication is FISH. The item folks want to see as a K is actually more like a \ and a < That < linked to the next immediate character with the loops yields a very common written symbol for MOUNTAIN.

In short, not UK()LeLee but FISH MOUNTAIN LEE ~ with some sort of stand in at the \ which I think might be a Chinese way of rendering MAN or PERSON.

Any of you folks take shorthand? I didn't but I lived with a professional steno for many years (my mother), and she could take dictation faster than folks could talk. The Chinese invented something like stenography in this flowing script method.

I'd like someone who knows either or both of the two major steno systems in America to look at that "signature" and tell us what it says. What I have here looks like "Hawaii" (fish mountain) person "Lee".

You can find many thousands of Chinese characters and script representations on the internet, so I didn't come with this out of my imagination. I went looking for the characters and they were there. Steno is different.