Posted on 04/28/2011 9:35:21 AM PDT by WalterSkinner
Video of a member of Hemet Calvary Chapel being arrested for reading the Bible to people standing in line at the local DMV office by a CHP officer.
“Therefore, it’s the law that is in error, not the pastors.”
In this case, it wasn’t the law that was in error, it was the police. They were arrested for “impeding an open business” and in that statute, there are two exceptions to the law, first, if someone is doing union activites, and second, if someone is doing something protected by the Constitution.
The cop screwed up when he arrested them, the charges will be dismissed, and hopefully they’ll learn a valuable life lesson. :)
In this case you are wrong. They were arrested for impeding an open business and that law doesn’t apply to preaching.
Absolutely, driver's licenses expire as do auto licenses. And there are time limits on auto registration, and address changes. So the state REQUIRES these transactions be accomplished in a time-limited manner.
Dude, matter of fact I need to jump on Algores' interwebby thingy and renew my TX registration before the end of May.
Like, I always use the webby thing. ..beats going to the DMV and getting preached to.
Yes.
Imagine you’re in a cemetery and they’re lowering the casket into the ground, as a priest or minister has final prayers.
Someone shows up with a boombox and starts blaring
“Christianity is Stupid” by Negativland, “Religious Vomit”
by the Dead Kennedys, “Dear God” by XTC, or “Will The Fetus Be Aborted” by Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra.
Hey...freedom of speech! What, they have no right to do that?
It’s harassment (see also Westboro Baptist Church)
That doesn’t answer the question I asked.
That makes sense. But it was my understanding that the DMV had not opened for the day. It was NOT an open business.
We’ll see what happens, won’t we?
So just calling it something else, in this case harassment, makes it OK for the government, federal or State, to do that which it is forbidden by the Constitution?
“No, it is not speech or religion. It is harassment.”
BTW, you do not have such a right.
Your ADD really is bad today. Reread the first question in your post. DUH.
Your rights end where someone else’s rights begin. Sorry you think the Bible trumps that.
Actually, it does. If someone had been playing rap in the same instance as this guy he could have just as easily been treated the same.
Your rights end where someone else’s rights begin. Sorry you think the Bible trumps that.
Your rights end where someone else’s rights begin. Sorry you think the Bible trumps that.
You have the right to free speech but you do not have the right to force others to hear you.
““There is a MAJOR difference between personal reading of the Bible to yourself and preaching to people at the DMV.”
Both are legal.”
No, they are not. Sorry you think disturbing others in the name of religion is legal, but it isn’t.
Well the 1st amendment did not address the DMV either.Yes, I do have the right not to be harassed, that is not the same as being offended.If something is offensive to me I can either turn it off or leave the area, no harm done.If I have to occupy a space for a period of time waiting to do personal business, especialy in this case with the goverment, being forced to listen to someones religious views is harassment.
OK, if you’re answering my question, then you’re agreeing with me that the people in line are not being forced to be there at that particular time.
Therefore, it’s not a case of people being forced to listen to the pastors reading the Bible. That was my point.
So, you and I agree, true?
The statute they were arrested on says that the law does NOT apply to Constitutionally protected actions, which preaching is. No ones rights were being violated.
What rights?
Of course, that statement works against you just as easily as it works against him.
It's all about who gets to decide where someone else's rights 'end'.
You have defined it such that his rights 'end' in a place that is convenient for you, but deny him the right to define your rights such that your rights 'end' in a place that is convenient for him.
Think Toad, think...
BTW, it’s not ADD. It’s severe over-caffeination.
LOLOLOLOLOL. Oops.
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