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Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!
The Post & Email ^ | 04/12/2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/12/2011 12:59:48 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Miki Booth has just reported via telephone to The Post & Email that a man born and currently residing in Hawaii went to the Department of Health this morning and requested a copy of his long-form birth certificate. He was refused, told that it was no longer available and that all he could obtain is the short-form document.

The man had obtained his short-form “Certificate of Live Birth” several weeks ago and reported to Miki that the request form had had two different boxes which could be checked: one indicating that the short-form was being requested and the other that the long-form was desired.

Today, the man reported that the form has been changed such that that choice is no longer available.

Therefore, when Dr. Chiyome Fukino spoke with MSNBC on Monday morning, she apparently was not lying when she said that long-form birth certificates are no longer available.

But why was that change made? Who ordered the change in policy? Was it made because Donald Trump has demanded that Obama release his original, detailed birth certificate to support his claim of a Hawaii birth?

The witness who accompanied the gentleman has a daughter who obtained a copy of her long-form birth certificate last month. The document was provided to Miki Booth, who supplied it to The Post & Email here.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chiyomefukino; coverup; hawaii; hdoh; naturalborncitizen; obama; wtfiknow
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“So if a requirement for a long form exists (drivers license, security clearance, ...) and a person cannot get his/her long form from the state, then what? I smell a lawsuit in about 2 seconds.”

Ditto. You cannot get a passport with that COLB so what are people in HI supposed to do? You probably cannot get a marriage license in any other state with it either or a bunch of stuff. I guarantee you are not going to work for the State Dept or Boeing or Lockheed with that COLB.

This has got to be all because of Obama. If it actually is can you imagine what he must be hiding to go this far to avoid disclosure?


41 posted on 04/12/2011 1:16:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokeyblue

So if Arizona passes a law that says a candidate must produce a long-form birth certificate, a candidate won’t qualify if he/she comes from Hawaii?


42 posted on 04/12/2011 1:16:33 PM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Smokeyblue
You tell Miki to show those liars this!
 
Welcome to the Department of Health's Online Vital Records Ordering System
Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health (DOH). In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).
Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver's licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor's benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs.
This is only an ordering system for certified copies of vital records. The certified copies being ordered WILL NOT be issued online as a part of your transaction. You will receive the ordered certified copies via first-class postal mail within 4-6 weeks.
Orders received on this web site WILL NOT be given processing priority over orders placed in-person or by postal mail on the same day. Processing of online orders will not be expedited and will be processed under the DOH's standard procedures.
You may order certified copies only of birth and marriage certificates and only of records dating from July 1909 to the present on this web site. You can also order certified copies of birth and marriage certificates, and must order certified copies of death and divorce certificates and certified copies of records dating before July 1909, through postal mail or in-person (see www.hawaii.gov/doh click on "vital records" for information).
You may order certified copies only of your own birth and marriage certificates or of an immediate family member (e.g., a parent of his/her child's birth or marriage certificate) on this web site. NOTE: This system does exact matches only. Please enter data carefully as typographical errors will result in a failure to match.
https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi
 
 
 
 
REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPY OF BIRTH RECORD
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf
 

43 posted on 04/12/2011 1:16:50 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Smokeyblue

This is gaining more and more trappings of a conspiracy and cover up.


44 posted on 04/12/2011 1:17:10 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: livius
I can’t believe this is legal. But it sure shows you how desperate they are.

This all thanks to The Donald.

He's not really running for President.

He's using a faux Presidential run to garner national attention to the hand grenades he's throwing into the Oval Office.

45 posted on 04/12/2011 1:18:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: Smokeyblue

All it takes is for some other State(s) to reject the COLB as the acceptable logn form BC form from HI residents (if they move elsewhere).

So HI residents will become ‘illegal’ in other states, and see how that goes.


46 posted on 04/12/2011 1:19:38 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Smokeyblue

Barry Frank Davis ????


47 posted on 04/12/2011 1:20:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fatnotlazy
My "Certificate of Life Birth" from about the same time (admittedly from Illinois) was a hand-filled form with things like: Mother's residence (and how long she lived there), Parents names, ages, races, birth places, occupation (only for the father, from those Ozzie and Harriot days), number of other children (living and dead), parent's signatures, doctor's signature address and phone number.

A few years ago, I thought I had lost the original (I had just misplaced it), so I sent for a replacement, and the replacement was a notarized photocopy of the original.

48 posted on 04/12/2011 1:20:40 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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49 posted on 04/12/2011 1:21:20 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Red Steel
I recently conducted a little experiment. I called three passport offices with the following apocryphal tale: I said I needed to apply for a passport but only had a short-form certification of live birth from Hawaii. Would that suffice? The three passport offices I contacted were in Hawaii, Washington, D.C., and Virginia.

Hawaii said "no problem."

Washington and Virginia both said no way.

Same country, different responses.

Interesting because passport offices are Federal and should therefore have the same requirements everywhere.

50 posted on 04/12/2011 1:21:35 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Smokeyblue

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive!!!”


51 posted on 04/12/2011 1:21:34 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Check this out:

Updated March 23, 2011

New U.S. Birth Certificate Requirement

Beginning April 1, 2011, the U.S. Department of State will require the full names of the applicant’s parent(s) to be listed on all certified birth certificates to be considered as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for all passport applicants, regardless of age. Certified birth certificates missing this information will not be acceptable as evidence of citizenship. This will not affect applications already in-process that have been submitted or accepted before the effective date.

For more information, see 22 CFR 51.42(a).

To obtain a new birth certificate, see the CDC.

In addition to this requirement, certified copies of birth certificates must also include the following information to be considered acceptable primary evidence of U.S. citizenship:

Full name of the applicant
Date of birth
Place of birth
Raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal of issuing authority
Registrar’s signature
The date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office (must be within one year)

http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_5401.html


52 posted on 04/12/2011 1:22:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Smokeyblue

It looks like the DOH is breaking Hawaii state law:

§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

This says they shall provide upon request a copy of ANY certificate, the contents or any certificate or any part of any certificate. If you have a long-form on record, they cannot legally refuse to provide a copy.


53 posted on 04/12/2011 1:23:39 PM PDT by edge919
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To: DManA
I suppose the next step will be to burn all the long forms.
What do you think they've been doing for the last two years? It takes a while to destroy that many documents without anyone noticing!
54 posted on 04/12/2011 1:23:42 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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55 posted on 04/12/2011 1:23:47 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Smokeyblue; mhking

Just damn.


56 posted on 04/12/2011 1:23:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Smokeyblue

Are there any Hawaii residents out there who approve of their state government changing their basic operations in serving the people of Hawaii to provide cover to an obvious fraud?

Anyone from Hawaii want to comment?


57 posted on 04/12/2011 1:24:04 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Danae

FYI


58 posted on 04/12/2011 1:24:15 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Smokeyblue

if true everyone born in Hawaii who does not already have one is SOL if they want to apply for a passport


59 posted on 04/12/2011 1:24:39 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

First I’ve heard of that.......


60 posted on 04/12/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I knew what I was feeling, but what was I thinking!)
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