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Posted on 03/30/2011 7:12:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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Apparently, you and your “those in the know” think you know a lot. Go get some sleep dude. You’re hallucinating.
Ahh... boys?
The jig is up.
Quite correct — Pahlavi is demonized by the Ayatollah’s regime for a reason
I always thought “the jig was up” when previous US admin went for Saddam’s Iraq, and then increasingly, per “Condi diplomacy” (starting early 2006) continually tried to appease the Mullahs’ regime in Iran to assist w/ stabilization of the situation in Iraq. As if..
If the US can pull a rabbit out of a hat in Iraq from now on to curb the Mullah’s influence (regardless of ex-MeK), and regardless of the puppet Ayatollah Sistani, I’d like to see the proof of it.
You may be unaware, but evven Khomenie’s grandson admitted they could only prove 5000 deaths by the Shah during his reign, and most of those were direct combat action against Russian supplied MEK and other ‘student’ groups that were directly fighting against the Shah.
I have long lost that link, but I remember it well, and the more we search for information on so-called abuses by the Shah, they aren’t there.
The Shah may have done things different than we like here, but he was in survival mode, and he genuinely was doing to his opponents there what we wish our own government would do to Islamic radicals here; namely, DEFEND OURSELVES FROM SAVAGES!
http://www.thenewamerican.com/history/european/1111
pahlevi was a demon before the mullah’s regime. Except he was OUR demon. But then so was noriega. And musharaff. And bhutto. And the mujahaden in afghanistan fighting the soviets. And the house of saud which finances almost all the sunni terrorism in the world. And the kla in Yugoslavia which is still killing Christians and burning down churches, but which clinton damn near started WWIII over and NOW they even have their own “state.” And yasser arafat. And abbas. And bashar assad. and all the shieking freaks in the ois. I mean, huh?
OR did you mean that the regime is STILL demonizing pahlevi for a reason? Please explain.
What is your point? Because this whole thread is not about iran. I could care less about iran nd their internal bs. Except for the fact that the Iranian people themselves never asked for the outcome of any this. Except that pahlevi was a harsh dictator. And that the mullahs make pahlevi look like a piker. What’s not to demonize? Demons demonizing demons seems to be a game islam plays with itslf quite well.
Your point?
From the article you linked:
“From 1941 until 1979, Iran was ruled by a constitutional monarchy under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Irans Shah (king).”
tp://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Iran79.htm
In the 1950s, a major political crisis developed over control of the oil industry. In 1951 Muhammad Mossadegh, a militant nationalist, became prime minister. When parliament approved a law nationalizing the property of foreign oil companies with widespread popular support, Mossadegh pressed the shah for extraordinary powers. The dissension between pro- and anti-Mossadegh forces reached a climax during 1953 when the shah dismissed the prime minister. Mossadegh refused to yield, and the shah fled to Rome. After three days of riots, the royalists won back control of Teheran, the shah returned, and Mossadegh was sentenced to prison. The shah then opened negotiations with an eight-company oil consortium that guaranteed Iran a margin of profit greater than anywhere else in the Middle East.
Throughout the 1960s, the shah began to exercise increasing control over the government after **dissolving parliament in 1961.** Programs of agricultural and economic modernization were pursued, but the shah’s Plan Organization took charge of economic development, leaving very few benefits to reach the ordinary citizen.
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The point is that sooner or later, dictators do what they do. They dictate.
ALL I was doing was pointing out that there was a reason all of this happened and that it could have been prevented.
Oil. Gotta love it. Drugs. Gotta love them too. Who are the good guys? None of them. Who are the bad guys? ALL of them. What more can I say?
We agree. Thank you.
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Morning!!! Took a day off of work today. Told my boss I needed a mental health day, lol.
DOODNESS!
Well! That’s a classic ‘setting the record straight!’
Thanks for the ping.
Well, after last night, you sure ain’t gonna find it here. LOL
Whew!
Hahahaha. Just being amongst my “peeps” makes me feel better!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think my long ago Iranian friends would agree with many of your points.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703308/posts
Suspect in Santa Monica Jewish Center Blast Arrested In Ohio
KTLA-TV ^ | April 11, 2011 | KTLA-TV
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 11:11:10 PM by Beaten Valve
Authorities arrested a man in Ohio who was wanted in connection with an explosion outside a Jewish Community Center in Santa Monica.
According to the FBI, 60-year old Ron Hirsch left Los Angeles Thursday on a Greyhound bus bound for New York where he has family.
On Monday, investigators released surveillance video of Hirsch outside a bus station in Denver.
Then, late Monday night, the Jewish news organization VIN said Hirsch was apprehended in Ohio after a member of the public recognized him and called police.
Hirsch is a transient and has been known to use the aliases J. Fisher and Israel Fisher.
The cause of the explosion was initially believed to be the result of a “mechanical failure,” but police now say the blast was actually triggered by a homemade explosive device
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703397/posts
FOXNews: CIA Stopping Terrorist Interrogations; Fear Of Criminal Charges, Uselessness Of Gitmo
FOXNews
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:56:22 AM by MindBender26
On FOXNews this AM.
CIA operatives are now actively declining to interrogate captured terrorists or move them to Guantanamo. With Obama/Holder prosecutors hovering over every case, trying to find ways to indict CIA officers, and Guantanamo becoming nothing more than R & R for the terrorists, experienced CIA officers now refuse to have anything to do with captured terrorists.
One case in point was a long-sought terrorist HVT captured by Pakistanis. When CIA was contacted to come question or take custody of him, CIA declined.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704662604576257273696136418.html
Pakistan Tells U.S. to Halt Drones .
Pakistan has privately demanded the Central Intelligence Agency suspend drone strikes against militants on its territory, one of the U.S.’s most effective weapons against al Qaeda and Taliban leaders, officials said.
Pakistan has also asked the U.S. to reduce the number of U.S. intelligence and Special Operations personnel in the country, according to U.S. and Pakistani officials.
The U.S. strategy in the war in Afghanistan hinges on going after militants taking refuge in Pakistan. The breakdown in intelligence cooperation has cast a pall over U.S.-Pakistani relations, with some officials in both countries saying intelligence ties are at their lowest point since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks spurred the alliance.
Beyond the Afghan battlefield, officials believe that without a robust counterterrorism relationship with Pakistan, al Qaeda and other groups can operate with far greater impunity when planning attacks on the U.S. and Europe. The vast majority of attacks against the West in the last decade originated in Pakistan.
Relations have been under heightened strain since Pakistan’s arrest in January of CIA contractor Raymond Davis, who was jailed after killing two armed Pakistani men in Lahore on Jan. 27. Mr. Davis was released last month, but the case fueled Pakistani resentment over the presence of U.S. operatives in their country.
Pakistani officials complained that Mr. Davis and potentially dozens of other CIA operatives were working without Islamabad’s full knowledge.
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear FARS!
Thanks for getting all this done and up here. The Israelis have a heck of quandary on their hands. It’s going to be very telling how this admin handles it. I really, really hope they don’t do anything more provocative than try to pass and then do what the Israelis tell them to do rather than trying to run the blockade.
It never stops, does it?
From your link:
A video briefly appeared on YouTube with a threat of an attack on the Netherlands. The film begins with the text: “Get ready for attack! 4 MAY 2011, a big BOMB for the Netherlands - non-believers will believe!”
update: The video has meanwhile been withdrawn by the owner, according to a statement on the YouTube website.
The movie showed a young man with a Palestinian scarf around his head, sitting behind a computer screen. He talks animatedly to the camera, but his voice has been replaced by a music track. The movie ends with the text: “The End. Gift for the racist.”
The video was posted on 10 April by “MrTheBizznizz”. The YouTube profile shows that “MrTheBizznizz” is 20 years old, lives in the Netherlands, and is named “MO”. A spokesman for the national police service (KLPD) says they are working with the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism to investigate the film.
His name is 'Mo'? Is this being taken seriously or as a 'fantasy video' on behalf of 'Mo'. . .Inquiring minds, will want to know.
Meantime, watching France's 'Will to enforce' per ban on 'hijab' as this is now officially being implemented.
Wish there were an easy cure for this 'virus' that is attacking, destroying, killing. . .decent folks; around the world and for what seems 'eons'. (There is of course, an 'easy' cure; and it is called 'WILL'. . .moved by common sense and Moral Reason; but this all too diluted thanks to the mind control of poliltical correctness and those who cultivate/enforce it. This is as well; a virus, unto itself. A few signs of hope; but we need so much more.
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