This is unacceptable, but not surprising.

The 9th Circus has been a bastion for lib-ism for years.

Ouch. This could be a serious setback. Maybe time for a CWII ping if Brewer doesn’t take it lying down.

Coming from the Ninth Circus, totally expected.

...what an education that was in seeing just how the people are dumbed down and controlled. In his long winded speech this Imam said absolutely nothing at all...nothing that those people could even remotely make sense of.. because it was all senseless babble from the beginning to the end. Though stated soft spoken and endearing it meant nothing....astounding gibberish.

Safe to say; given how Obama speaks to his crowd; that Obama's name could easily replace the Imam mentioned above, per style at least. (Obama, 'of course; has not articulated the 'off with our heads' - yet).

The rest of us have long recognized that Obama speaks in meaningless, wandering platitudes and with empty rhetoric albeit, he does this with 'style'. His disciples, of course, hear something else, altogether; or so imagine, that is.

...what an education that was in seeing just how the people are dumbed down and controlled. In his long winded speech this Imam said absolutely nothing at all...nothing that those people could even remotely make sense of.. because it was all senseless babble from the beginning to the end. Though stated soft spoken and endearing it meant nothing....astounding gibberish.

Safe to say; given how Obama speaks to his crowd; that Obama's name could easily replace the Imam mentioned above, per style at least. (Obama, 'of course; has not articulated the 'off with our heads' - yet).

The rest of us have long recognized that Obama speaks in meaningless, wandering platitudes and with empty rhetoric albeit, he does this with 'style'. His disciples, of course, hear something else, altogether; or so imagine, that is.

Well it’s not surprising Bo would speak the same...although he does so in such a way as to understand that he’s doing just that. But these characters go round and round saying nothing at all remotely understandable...rather it’s all fuzzy strokes to keep them hanging on to their every word.

Not to say obama doesn’t do so as well...but his remarks are made about himself...at least the imamans make it clear it’s about their country...even if being decitful at least they favor their land.

lol...I didn’t see that...funny!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2703068/posts

IHH Head: New Flotilla Will Be By Land, Air, and Sea. Zionism Infected all Humanity Like a Virus
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2890.htm ^ | April 7, 2011

Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 2:48:01 PM by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

The following is an excerpt from a speech by IHH Head Bulent Yildirim, which was published on the Internet on April 7, 2011:

Bulent Yildirim: We are getting ready. There will be a ship from every country. From Europe... Our own Mavi Marmara will also set sail from Europe. Ships will come from all over the world. Israel will learn this: The Mediterraneandoes not belong to Israel. Just because we had shahids does not mean we are afraid. We will not step back.

Let everyone know that, until the blockade on Gaza is lifted, and until our march to Al-Aqsa is completed, this Intifada by sea and by land will continue! Furthermore, it will not only be sea. We are also preparing to send convoys by land. Allah willing, our project to purchase an airplane will soon be realized. This way, we will also reach Gaza by air.

What are we saying to the world leaders? Do not expect us to remain calm when people in Gaza are dying. Do not expect us to remain silent when the Al-Aqsa Mosque is held prisoner.

What we are saying is that we have no problem with the Christians and the Jews. There were some Christians and Jews with us on our ships.

But we do have a problem with one place, and we declare it boldly, without fear, and without hesitation: Our problem is Zionism, which has infected all of humanity like a virus.

Sorry, meant to ping ya! #608

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“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.”

— U.S. President John Adams

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Thanks. I did not even know about this thread. Do you have a ping list for it? Sounds interesting.

Placemark

The Ninth district ruled against America? Say it isn’t so!

Yeah, Deo. You on?

I suppose I’ll try it out. :-)

Okey doke!

Who is IHH

1 June 2010, 10:51

Press ignores controversial IHH profile

While much of the coverage of the aftermath of the violent clash onboard the Mavi Marmara has attempted to piece together the sequence of events, or to explain why the flotilla of ships were attempting to reach Gaza in the first place, little background information has been provided on the alleged terrorist links or the provocative behaviour of the participants who were at the centre of this tragedy. This particularly applies to the Turkish charity ‘Insani Yardim Vakfi’(IHH) that was responsible for organising the convoy.

Israel banned the IHH, alongside 35 other Islamic charities, for belonging to an umbrella group called the Union of Good (Ittilaf al-Kheir), which in 2008 was officially designated in the US as a financial supporter of Hamas, the radical Islamist group that runs Gaza. Top members of the Union of the Good include the cleric Dr Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, who controversially stated in 2004 that Islam both allows suicide bombing, and also allows the targeting of Israeli women because they are ‘militarized’, and Abd al-Majid al-Zindani, who was designated by the US as a terrorist in 2004 for providing support to al Qaeda.

In 2006 the Danish Institute for International Studies released a report entitled ‘The Role of Islamic Charities in International Terrorist Recruitment and Financing’, which included several references to the IHH, and in particular to the fact that the organisation is viewed with deep suspicion by Turkey itself. For example, ‘Turkish authorities began their own domestic criminal investigation of IHH as early as December 1997, when sources revealed that leaders of the organisation were purchasing automatic weapons from other regional Islamic militant groups. IHH’s bureau in Istanbul was thoroughly searched, and its local officers were arrested. Security forces uncovered an array of disturbing items, including firearms, explosives, bomb-making instructions, and a “jihad flag.”’

In conjunction with the controversial profile of the IHH, fresh evidence is available of the extremist disposition of some of those who took part in the convoy. As Just Journalism reported on yesterday, several of the crew were recorded chanting about historical battles between Muslims and Jews, underlying that many on the ship were actively seeking violence.

[Above: IHH founder Bülent Yildirim meeting with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh during a previous Gaza convoy to which IHH was a party.]

Sympathetic presentation of protesters – The Guardian

In spite of all the evidence surrounding the IHH and the protesters on the Mavi Marmara, sections of the British press have all but ignored this aspect, preferring to paint the convoy participants simply as ‘activists’ and ‘civilians’ who were totally unprepared for a confrontation.

This applies especially to The Guardian’s extensive coverage, which barely touches the militancy of those on board. The main article, does not even mention IHH and refers to those on board simply as ‘pro-Palestinian activists’ and ‘civilians’. When, in the latter part of the article journalist Harriet Sherwood does put Israel’s version of events across, no mention was made of the video footage –widely broadcast – of soldiers being lynched as they boarded the Mavi Marmara. Instead the assertion that the Israelis were attacked first is simply characterised as an Israeli claim.

The second lead piece of reporting by Robert Booth did offer an accurate rendering of the television footage (‘Turkish television footage showed how one by one as the commandos descended by ropes to the deck they were ambushed by waiting passengers armed with what appeared to be metal bars, sticks and in one case, a table.’). However, the journalist still characterised the convoy participants as having no hope against the Israeli army:

‘The activists from as many as 50 different countries stood little chance in the face of such a show of strength.’

Crucially, the piece went on to depict those on board as having been totally innocent of mal-intent in the run up to the final showdown with Israel on Monday:

‘During Sunday on the journey from Cyprus towards Gaza, the trip had been progressing well, with spirits high among the pro-Palestinian activists…

‘Little did they know that three hours earlier than that, at around 9pm, three Israeli naval craft had left the northern Israeli port of Haifa to intercept them…

‘Then around midnight the flotilla co-ordinators appeared to become worried and Lubna Masarwa, a Palestinian Israeli on board the Marmara issued a series of urgent messages via Twitter…

‘The Free Gaza campaign was worried enough to issue “a call to the world from the people on the boats”. “This flotilla is bringing supplies the people of Gaza and are being met by military force,” it said.’

Furthermore, the large graphic on page two also depicts ‘A small group of activists’ as arming themselves ‘with sticks and bars to fight back’.

This picture seems somewhat skewed, given the fact that footage is widely available from Saturday showing convoy participants on board the Mavi Mamara chanting slogans against the Jews, as well as one woman who boasts to the camera: We are now waiting for one of two good things – either to achieve martyrdom or to reach Gaza.’

The only examination of the organisers and participants which touched on extremist tendencies was on the final page of coverage in a Q&A. Even then, IHH was simply described as having been ‘singled out’ by Israel as ‘a radical Islamic organisation.’ Danny Ayalon is quoted alleging links by the organisers with ‘global Jihad, al-Qaida and Hamas’ but no third party evidence for this is cited.

Acknowledgement of protester extremism and violence – The Times

By contrast, The Times gave a much higher profile to the militancy of the convoy participants. James Hider’s piece on page 4, ‘How Flotilla bound for Gaza sailed into martyrdom at sea’ gave prominence to the footage of a convoy participant setting out her aim for reaching Gaza or achieving martyrdom. Hider also makes room for the idea that at least an element among the activists were set on violence:

‘However, some of the hundreds of passengers on the Mavi Marmara had other ideas. As the Israeli Navy Seals rappelled, one by one, on to the upper deck of the ship, it was no longer clear exactly who was ambushing whom.’

Crucially, he went on to incorporate into his narrative what can be seen in the Israeli footage showing soldiers being lynched. The journalist described one soldier as having ‘hit the deck only to find a mob of furious demonstrators, rather than political protesters, armed with iron bars, baseball bats, knives, petrol bombs and stun grenades.’ This approach to the footage was also taken in The Times’ lead news story, ‘Death on the High Seas’ which described how it:

‘showed masked Navy Seals rappelling from helicopters on to the deck and into a sea of angry activists, some armed with knives and batons. A pistol was snatched from at least one commando and an Israeli commander gave an order to fire.

This contrasts greatly with The Guardian’s approach of not giving the evidence due prominence in its own narrative.

FWIW The ninth circus just ruled AGAINST Arizona’s immigration law. Waiting for words from Jan Brewer...on Fox.

Thanks for the ping.

IHH is for all intents and purposes al Quaida. There’s a lot of background material out there, this is a good place to look at the AQ and Hamas hookups:

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/hamas_e105.htm

thanks; posted the IHH post as background because I did not know who they were. I like your link better:

Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center

May 26 2010

IHH, which plays a central role in organizing the flotilla to the Gaza Strip, is a Turkish humanitarian relief fund with a radical Islamic anti-Western orientation. Besides its legitimate philanthropic activities, it supports radical Islamic networks, including Hamas, and at least in the past, even global jihad elements.

Portrait of IHH

1. Prominent among the coalition organizations participating in the aid flotilla scheduled to arrive in the Gaza Strip in the coming days is the Turkish IHH (Insani Yardim Vakfi, IHH, “humanitarian relief fund”). It is a radical Islamic organization which was established in 1992 and formally registered in Istanbul in 1995. It is headed by Bülent Yildirim.

IHH head Bülent Yildirim
(www.ihh.org.tr, April 7, 2010)

2. IHH has a broad program of important activities in distressed areas. They include sending food and support to orphans, establishing educational institutions, hospitals and clinics, programs for vocational education, supplying medicines, building mosques and preventing the violation of human rights in various Islamic locations throughout the world. In recent years it has begun widening its activities to European countries, in part by establishing branches which bear its name.

3. In practice, besides its legitimate humanitarian activities, IHH supports radical Islamic terrorist networks. In recent years it has prominently supported Hamas (through the Union of Good). In addition, the ITIC has reliable information that in the past IHH provided logistical support and funding to global jihad networks.

IHH logo: The dove of peace appears at the lower right of the globe.

IHH Links To Hamas

4. IHH’s orientation is radical-Islamic and anti-American, and it is close to the Muslim Brotherhood (Hamas’ parent movement). IHH supports Hamas and does not hide the connection between them. Hamas also considers its links to IHH and Turkey to be extremely important, and regards Turkey as a target audience for its propaganda network (Palestine-Information, Hamas’ main website, has a Turkish version, and as of the end of 2009, the website of its military wing, the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, has also appeared in Turkish).

5. In recent years, especially since Hamas took over the Gaza Strip, IHH has supported Hamas’ propaganda campaigns by organizing public support conferences in Turkey. At those conferences, which featured the participation of senior IHH figures, the heads of IHH expressed their support for Hamas and its strategy (including the armed struggle it favors), in defiance of the Palestinian Authority, Hamas’ rival.

6. IHH is a member of the Union of Good, an umbrella organization of more than 50 Islamic funds and foundations around the globe, which channels money into Hamas institutions in the Palestinian Authority-administered territories. As a Union of Good member IHH has connections with other worldwide Islamic funds and foundations which support Hamas. Among other things, the support includes initiating and conducting joint projects whose objectives are to bolster the de facto Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip and Hamas’ civilian infrastructure in Judea and Samaria, which also supports terrorism (the infrastructure is under pressure from the Palestinian Authority security services). IHH, which has become an important factor in global fund-raising for Hamas, transfers significant amounts of money to Hamas institutions in Judea and Samaria, including the Islamic Charitable Society in Hebron and the Al-Tadhamun Charitable Society in Nablus (Hamas’ two central “charitable societies,” both outlawed by Israel).

7. IHH operates widely throughout the Gaza Strip. To promote its activities it opened a branch there, headed by Muhammad Kaya, who recently stated that IHH intended to send other aid flotillas to the Gaza Strip (See below). In January 2008 an IHH delegation met with Ahmed Bahar, a senior Hamas activist who is acting chairman of Hamas’ council in the Gaza Strip. At the meeting the delegation revealed the extent of the aid it had given Hamas in the Gaza Strip during the preceding year and said it intended to double the sum in the future. In January 2009 IHH head Bülent Yildirim met with Khaled Mashaal, chairman of Hamas’ political bureau in Damascus, and Mashaal thanked him for the support of his organization.

Bülent Yildirim and Khaled Mashaal (January 2009).¹

Bülent Yildirim meets Ismail Haniya and other important people in the Gaza Strip (January 7, 2010).³

Bülent Yildirim and de facto Hamas administration head Ismail Haniya (January 7, 2010).²

Israel Outlaws IHH and Expels an IHH Activist

9. Israel outlawed IHH because of its affiliation with the Union of Good and because it is an important factor in Hamas’ global fund raising. It was included in a decision made by Defense Minister Ehud Barak in 2008 which outlawed 36 associations which belonged to the Union of Good (IHH appeared as number 36 on the list⁴).

10. In November 2009 IHH sent one of its activists, a man named Izzat Shahin, to Judea and Samaria to open an office (in addition to its Gaza Strip office). Shahin started work supporting Hamas “charitable societies.” He transferred tens of thousands of American dollars from IHH to the Islamic Charitable Society in Hebron and Al-Tadhamun in Nablus, two of Hamas’ most important “charitable societies.” His activities were thwarted by the Israeli security forces. In April 2010 he was detained for questioning on suspicion of involvement in financing terrorism and supporting Hamas, and was deported from Israel immediately after his interrogation in compliance with an official Turkish request.

Part of a document seized by the IDF during Operation Defensive Shield (2002): A table prepared by the Union of Good containing the names of shaheeds who carried out mass-murder suicide bombing attacks in Israeli cities. It was used to arrange payments to the suicide bombers’ families though the Hamas-affiliated Islamic “charitable society” Al-Tadhamun in Nablus. It is one of the charitable societies Izzat Shahin transferred money to after he was appointed IHH representative in Judea and Samaria in 2009.

IHH’s Links with the Global Jihad

11. The ITIC has reliable information indicating that in the past IHH had links with global jihad and Islamic terrorist elements in the Middle East. As part of its connections with the global jihad it supported jihadist terrorist networks in Bosnia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Chechnya.

12. That was manifested by logistic support for the transfer of weapons and money. This information verifies findings of a study conducted by a Danish research institute into IHH’s past links with Al-Qaeda (See below).

13. We do not have updated information about current IHH links with global jihad elements, however, its activities in the past may indicate its nature.

Danish Research Institute Exposes Past IHH Links with Al-Qaeda

14. In 2006 a Danish research institute called the Danish Institute for International Studies conducted a study which reported that in the past IHH had connections with Al-Qaeda and global jihad operatives.⁵ The well-documented study was conducted by Evan Kohlman,⁶ an American researcher who specializes in Al-Qaeda and related subjects. It deals with the involvement of Islamic charity funds and foundations in supporting terrorism. Pages 10-14 relate to IHH.

Title page of the Danish Institute’s study.

15. According to the study, the Turkish authorities began investigating IHH at least in December 1997, after having received information that senior IHH figures had purchased automatic weapons from radical Islamic organizations. The office of the organization in Istanbul was consequently raided and activists were arrested. During the raid the Turkish security forces found weapons, explosives, instructions for making IEDs and a flag with a jihad message. An examination of the documents found in IHH office indicated that IHH members were planning to take part in jihad activities in Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya.

16. The study quotes a French intelligence report stating that in the mid-1990s IHH leader, Bülent Yildirim, was directly involved in recruiting “veteran soldiers” to organize jihad activities. According to the French report, a number of operatives were sent by IHH into war zones in Islamic countries to gain combat experience. The report also stated that IHH transferred money, “caches of firearms, knives and pre-fabricated explosives” to Muslim fighters in those countries.

Passage from the study quoting a French intelligence report. It deals with the
involvement of IHH and its leader in global jihad activities during the 1990s.

17. The study also states that an examination of IHH’s telephone records in 1996 showed repeated calls in 1996 to an Al-Qaeda guest house in Milan and to Algerian terrorists operating in Europe (one of whom was notorious Al-Qaeda figure Abu Ma’ali [Abd al-Qadr Mukhtari], who operated in Bosnia). IHH’s name was also mentioned during the trial of Ahmed Ressam held in the United States in 2000 (Ressam was a senior Al-Qaeda operative active in Canada, who at the end of 1999 entered the United States in a car carrying 600 kilograms (1320 pounds) of explosives. He planned to carry out a mass-casualty attack at the Los Angeles International Airport on the eve of the millennium.) The United States federal prosecutors called Jean-Louis Bruguière, a leading French investigating magistrate in charge of terrorism affairs, as an expert witness. He testified that IHH had played an important role in Al-Qaeda’s planned attack. According to Bruguière, IHH served as a cover for Al-Qaeda and acquired forged documents, enlisted operatives and transferred weapons.

Passage from the study dealing with IHH cover for the global jihad.

18. According to the study, following the American invasion of Iraq in 2003, Bülent Yildirim and IHH played a key role in anti-Western incitement among Turkish Muslims. At the end of 2000 IHH organized protests against the attempt to overthrow Saddam Hussein, during which Israeli and American flags were burned. In December 2004 IHH organized an anti-American march in Istanbul. During the march Bülent Yildirim told the Turkish Anatolia News Agency that the intelligence cooperation between the United States, Britain and Turkey had to stop, otherwise IHH would organize actions in front of every consulate, and if necessary organize 50,000 or 100,000 people in front of the American consulate. At a demonstration held in December 2004, anti-American slogans were shouted, including “Murderer sent by the murderous United States, get out of the Middle East,” and “Long live the resistance.”

Passage from the study dealing with IHH’s anti-American activities in Iraq.

The Central Role of IHH in the Aid Flotilla Sailing to the Gaza Strip

19. IHH is prominent among the many pro-Palestinian organizations in Turkey participating in the aid flotilla, which will reach the Gaza Strip in the coming days. Its participation is part of the massive aid it gives Hamas and its desire to make propaganda capital for Hamas and itself.

20. To that end IHH purchased three ships (of the nine in the flotilla): a passenger ship named the Mavi Marmaris and two cargo ships (one named “Gaza”). The Mavi Marmaris left Istanbul on May 22 en route to Antalya, where 500 passengers were expected to board it. The three ships will sail from Turkey to Cyprus to join the others, and from there they will sail together to the Gaza Strip (where they are apparently expected to arrive on the morning of May 29). In addition, in recent months IHH aided the de facto Hamas administration’s ministries of transportation and of public works by carrying out various projects in the

The flotilla’s route to the Gaza Strip. The red line refers to the Rachel Corrie, sailing from Ireland.⁷

21. On April 7, 2010, IHH head Bülent Yildirim told a press conference in Istanbul that the flotilla would be a “test” for Israel. He said that should Israel oppose the flotilla it would be considered “a declaration of war” on the countries whose activists arrived on board the ships (IHH website, April 7, 2010). In a fiery speech given at the launching of the Mavi Marmaris on May 23, he said to Israel, “Handle this crisis well. If you prevent [the flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip] you will remain isolated in the world and harm yourselves” (IHH website in Turkish, May 23, 2010). On May 21 Muhammad Kaya, head of IHH’s branch office in the Gaza Strip, said there was a plan to send flotillas to the Gaza Strip every month (Al-Jazeera-Info website, arabianawareness.com, May 21, 2010).

The ceremony marking the departure of the Mavi Marmaris from Istanbul, organized by IHH

The ceremony marking the departure of the Mavi Marmaris from Istanbul, organized by IHH. In the first row, second from the right, is Ra’ed Salah, head of the northern faction of the Islamic Movement in Israel. Fourth from the left is Kazem Sawalha, a Hamas activist affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, who found refuge in Britain. He was one of the chief organizers of the previous aid convoys (LifeLine) to the Gaza Strip (IHH website, May 23, 2010).

The rally in Turkey accompanied preparations for the ship’s departure. The participants are holding Turkish, Palestinian and Hamas flags, and flags of organizations affiliated with Hamas and radical Islam (the shahadah is inscribed on the green flag) ( IHH website, May 23, 2010).

¹ http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4168 .

² http://hurryupharry.org/2010/04/14/oh-jesus ,
http://www.velfecr.com/gazze-de-goz-yasartan-buyuk-bulusma-video-foto-1408-haberi.html.

³http://www.velfecr.com/gazze-de-goz-yasartan-buyuk-bulusma-video-foto-1408-haberi.html , January 7, 2010.

⁴ For further information see the date bulletin The war on financing terrorism: Defense Minister Ehud Barak signed an order outlawing 36 global “Union of Good” Islamic funds which raise money for Hamas institutions in the Palestinian Authority-administered territories. The money supports Hamas in building a political alternative to the PA and maintain a terrorism-supporting system at http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/pdf/financing_0708e.pdf

⁵ http://www.diis.dk/graphics/Publications/WP2006/DIIS%20WP%202006-7.web.pdf. The Danish institute which published the study is an independent institution which deals with interdisciplinary research about international issues, especially international conflicts. Its staff includes dozens of researches, many of them with PhDs (http://www.diis.dk/sw241.asp).

⁶ Evan Kohlman is American researcher specializing in terrorism who worked for the FBI and other American government organizations. He has a law degree and a degree in international politics and Islamic studies. In the past he interned in Washington for The Investigative Project, an anti-terrorism think-tank, and is currently head of NEFA, the Nine/Eleven Finding Answers Foundation. He served as an expert witness in the trials of several jihadist operatives in the United States, the Hague and Denmark, and is a senior terrorism commentator for NBC. He wrote a book about the jihad movement in Europe which was published in 2002 by the Oxford University Press and has published numerous articles about radical Islamic movements (From : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Kohlmann and .http://www.ie.edu/IE/site/php/en/school_communication_detail.php?id_new=111)

⁷ http://www.ihh.org.tr .

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