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Breaking News & LIVE THREAD- Egypt and Middle East
Various on the internet | 28 January 2011

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:48 AM PST by SE Mom

From FOX:

DEVELOPING: Loud explosions and gunfire were heard in the Egyptian capital of Cairo Friday, as protesters demanding the removal of President Hosni Mubarak defied a curfew, Al Jazeera reported. Egyptian television reports the ruling party headquarters in Cairo are on fire.

From TWITTER:

WashingtonPost: Clinton: We urge #Egypt authorities to allow peaceful protest, reverse unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications less than 20 seconds ago


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To: DoughtyOne

Wait, wait, wait... we shall have none of this reasonable discourse and dialogue on FR.

It must be flame wars all day every day.


881 posted on 01/28/2011 1:32:50 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: McGruff

That’s a portrait of a woman who rode her husband’s coattails into power.


882 posted on 01/28/2011 1:33:10 PM PST by Nickname
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To: HKMk23

I’ve been present for several of these marches. They’re real eye openers. I’d actually prefer they do protest like that. Let the populace see what the Democrats are all about. And believe me, these people are die-hard Democrats at heart. These are the folks that hang out at DU et al.

I note they have been going lower profile, and I think that is truly the more dangerous way to go.


883 posted on 01/28/2011 1:33:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
They are critical of the WH, and are questioning why Obama hasn’t tried to coordinate a response with other EU heads of state, Russians, or Chinese.

Yes, you'd think a Nobel Peace Price winner would be all over that, wouldn't you?

884 posted on 01/28/2011 1:33:25 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’d not only understand the government taking the internet down, I’d demand they do it.

From your mouth to Zeros (rather large) ear!

885 posted on 01/28/2011 1:33:36 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Elle Bee

Next week.... Jordan. Obozo has one heckuva foreign policy track record.... puts jimmuh to shame.


886 posted on 01/28/2011 1:33:43 PM PST by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Never on my watch

And I agree with you. I was just not getting which side was really there. Apparently both are. But thanks for the apology.

Amazed at Twitter people, all over the world, thinking this is good happy people versus an evil dictator, instead of what it really is, military-style rule, with working peace contracts with other countries, versus Muslim Brotherhood radical Islamists ready to take the Middle East back to even darker ages...


887 posted on 01/28/2011 1:34:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: RinaseaofDs
It’s amazing that they ( CNN )are able to get the video out of the country given all comms are down. I’m impressed.

Not that amazing if you remember they were in the bed with Sadaam Hussein in Iraq back during his horrendous regime.

Just saying........

888 posted on 01/28/2011 1:34:21 PM PST by Chuck54 (I do not regret growing old. Far too many never get this great opportunity. :-)
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To: r9etb
Because "someone better" should be able to a) finish at least one term as governor, and b) have actual big-time accomplishments.

Yep like Harry Truman.

889 posted on 01/28/2011 1:35:02 PM PST by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about politics.)
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To: All

AL JAZEERA: Egypt’s parliament speaker says ‘an important matter will be announced in a short time’.


890 posted on 01/28/2011 1:35:35 PM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Let's make them stop.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Sadat and Mubarak were stable players willing to conduct relations with the West in a reasoned manner.

In a world full of soft thinking, I do appreciate people waving the banner of realpolitik. In this case, it's not as simple as you think.

The problem with realpolitik is that after a certain point, it can turn your worst fear into a self fulfilled prophecy.

We backed Mubarak long past it was a geopolitical necessity, and well into it being merely convenient. Regardless of what you think of the Egyptian people, the Muslim Brotherhood, Islam or the West, we made the choice to cut checks to bad people and look the other way for a long time. Now their hated overlord is going down, and our very fresh fingerprints are all over the place. We probably should fear that they resent us for it. They probably will.

Propping up thugs makes us the common enemy of the people. It ensures that only the most vicious of the opposition groups survive. What's a reasonable man to do in such a case? Resign himself to living in oppression? By backing their dictator out of convenience, what impression about us did we really leave them with?

It's easy for us to say, "We needed Egypt against the Soviets." We did. We pushed off the internal problems of Egypt into the future, because the overall threat was so grave. Made sense then. Makes sense now. But a bill from the past is coming due. We probably should have paid up earlier, but we didn't. Now all we can do is hope for the best.

891 posted on 01/28/2011 1:35:35 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: RinaseaofDs
It’s amazing that they are able to get the video out of the country given all comms are down. I’m impressed.

Most of the video feeds are from Al Jazzera's live coverage.

892 posted on 01/28/2011 1:35:41 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Gabrial
3 protesters shot dead in Albania
893 posted on 01/28/2011 1:35:43 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I’m sure they have satellite coms. If CNN is doing a good job, I’m glad to hear it. I would watch for comments related to the whole populace being this or that, or Mubarak being a this or that.

Things are relative. It bothers me when the media passes on information in absolutes, when those absolutes are open to conjecture.

Thank you for the report. I may check it out later.


894 posted on 01/28/2011 1:37:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Never on my watch
Even funnier, they both are holding the 3 a.m. phone and are dumbfounded.

Yeah, on one hand it is funny, on the other their cluelessness will have consequences.

895 posted on 01/28/2011 1:37:50 PM PST by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Gabrial

Well getting hit in the head with a rubber coated bullet or 40 mm tear gas cartridge can both be fatal.


896 posted on 01/28/2011 1:37:50 PM PST by Smogger
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To: ishmac

I thought it was over, too, but now I know that communism will never be dead.

There will always be Godless people who believe that they’re the change the world has been waiting for and that they are destined to rule and succeed where communism has always failed in the past.


897 posted on 01/28/2011 1:38:08 PM PST by Nickname
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To: Gabrial
2 Palestians shot and killed by Israeli Military in the West Bank
898 posted on 01/28/2011 1:38:47 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: livius

Curious the difference in Barry’s reaction. An uprising against an Islamist government? No support. A (fundamentally) Islamist uprising against a secular government? Support.

Just watched white house press robert sh.. for brains and he said Obama has not picked up the phone and called Mubarek yet, has the foregin affair department colapsed totally? seems so. robert says they are watching a fluid situation but have not decided what if anything to do, claim they are not taking sides. anybody missinf GWB yet?


899 posted on 01/28/2011 1:38:55 PM PST by munin (Enki did it,)
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To: Smogger

On CNN: Live interview with American Tourist shooting video of a bridge packed with protesters. They have both internet and cell phone capability, and have been on social networks with friends and family.

I’m impressed with CNN so far, and I don’t have to deal with Shep Smith. For normal coverage, I stick to Fox, but I noticed during 9/11 they just don’t have the people on the ground to cover stuff.


900 posted on 01/28/2011 1:39:02 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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