Posted on 01/12/2011 10:09:52 AM PST by Immerito
DES MOINES, WA -- In November police officers tased, then shot and killed a 120-pound Newfoundland named Rosie.
The shooting sparked both a community vigil for the dog and an independent review of the officers' actions.
Although initiall reports were that the dog was acting aggressively when she escaped from her fenced yard and was spotted roaming neighborhood streets, video taken from the patrol car dash-cams may cast the shooting in a different light.
Warning: Videos contain graphic sounds and language.
The videos, released by Des Moines Police show the dog being tazed by an officer, then running away. In another video you hear an officer fire his gun, presumably hitting the dog, then another officer saying "Nice".
(Excerpt) Read more at ktla.com ...
You cite relevant regulations for everything EXCEPT THAT STATEMENT.
You will not find a single game warden, anywhere, who would support that statement.
So don't attempt to rain on a parade by pissing down a leg.
I already read the statute before I posted to you. That's why I called you on your BS.
when in such close pursuit as to endanger the life of a deer or moose or found in the act of wounding, maiming or killing deer or moose.
That's what it says. Which is not: "All loose dogs are generally deemed to chase deer or moose."
Sorry to rain on our parade.
Like I said, telling tall tales.
You can see this just by watching the early seasons of COPS and watching it now.
Totally different demeanor, aggressiveness when interacting even with bystanders,lack of patience, and quickness to use force in the new generation. It’s shocking the change and it’s all on tape.
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The ritalin and videogame generation is now grown up and has decided to work in law enforcement.
Yes - “center of mass” works well on the human anatomy (heart and lungs). For a dog he probably figured it was the middle of the dog - gutshot. What a dumb, friggen idiot cop. A head-shot is good for putting an injured animal down quickly and without too much suffereing. But mainly he’s an idiot for shooting the dog in the first place.
We had a neighbor’s pit bull puppy running around the neighborhood last summer - their kids were terrible about keeping the house door closed. It got all exited with another neighbor kid and accidently scrapped his hand and drew some blood. I went running outside hearing the screams and had one hand on my pistol and the other using a broom to “shoo” the dog away. You could tell it was just “playing” - but still scary for the kids.
Every game warden in the state of Vermont, all 29 of them, has their home phone number on the state website. I guess we could call and ask.
So don't attempt to rain on a parade by pissing down a leg.
He's trying, but the smell gives it away.
Well bring your dog up here to Caledonia COunty and turn him loose for three days.I’d be happy to give you a corner of the hay field to bury him in, but the digging is a litte hard right now.
What’s the evidence the dog was being “aggressive?”
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The dog was hiding as best he could in bushes and growled (if you believe the LEO) at his attacker (same LEO that shot him with a taser) ... How can anyone say the dog was in some kind of “attack posture” is beyond me.
Is this why many if not most police departments now treat their employees name/address information like a state secret?
Des Moines does not touch 99 (at least it never used to - might now with annexations). You are talking about unincorporated King County at the top of the hill. Des Moines is an off the beaten track hamlet on the water with quaint shops and a great park.
Getting TO Des Moines is a PITA, because it is not served by any arterials. It is almost mile from 99 down a winding hill to town on the Kent-Des Moines Rd .
So the statute didn’t say what you were claiming. Good, I’m glad we got that out of the way.
This whole situation was poorly handled.
No, the dog should not have been loose..
But they could have called Animal Control to deal with it.
You (by that, I mean anybody) corner a strange dog, it will of course show it’s teeth.
I’m appalled that he shot the dog at all, but as you say, a head shot would have been quick and merciful.
“they give the dog owner one warning about it.”
Fair, usually family pets will not run with wild dogs because they usually end up on the wrong end of a fight, injured or dead. Packs don’t like outsiders until they prove themselves.
Oh we get a lot of folks who movee here and let their dogs roam loose.Most of those dogs don’t last a month.They either are put on leash runs or they get shot by wardens.
Few folks take training their dogs seriously these days, so they become nuisances to wild life and live stock.
Its good policy. You either treat your dog as more than an overstuffed teddy bear or he dies. COnservative culture meets wing nut culture. The conservative culture wins. I like that.
It says exactoly what I was claiming.Thats why I posted it.
Wild dogs are a different matter,they try to run with coyotes.ONe could never mistake the for a domestic dog. All of them also get shot if the opportunity presents itself. Everybody shoots them as coyotes when the season allows it.They call them coy-dogs up here.They look a lot like coyotes.
No it doesn't. Not even remotely close, let alone "exactoly"(sic).
Diogenes ghost even stated the contrary in post #101: "All loose dogs are generally deemed to chase deer or moose. Sorry to rain on your parade."
You cite relevant regulations for everything EXCEPT THAT STATEMENT.
He's reading the same thread as me. When you're in a whole quit digging.
Sorry, ping to #115
I also think a lot of the federal training, equipment, money and tactics have to contributed to the situation.
There is no regulation to cover what you call that statement. The game officers have the discretion to decide wheteher a dog is chasing a dear or a moose,which are all over the place here.
They deem thenall to be doing so.What do you think the offiv=cers would do, watch a dog until it sees and chases a moose?Nope, Thats not the way it works homey.It works just as I reported.
And whats more, they will write a citation up and hold it after they warn a dog owner the first time and hang on to it.Then when they do have to shoot the dog, they fine them for the first time they caught the dog and took it back to the owner if the owner gets lippy. I would say several of you on this thread would be having dead dogs and getting fined too. I would be sitting back laughing and saying . “ Told yah!”
Some of you are just the same as the dreamy hippies who move here with their dogs and cats, letting them run loose.The dogs get shot by wardens within a month or so and the cats?Well the racoons and fox get them because they let the cats out free at night. Its really quite a laugh. I had a neighbor who went through a half dozen cats, letting them out at night...You could here their yowls and gurgles as the fox or racoon was stangling them for dinner. Its a shame the animals have to suffer because of negligent owners.
wHAT?????
from that description..a shot to the head would have ended it..sorry the issue here is NOT about dogs getting loose ( that is another issue) This is about police brutality...Yeah,” its only a dog, “..but these unprofessional, macho a..holes with a gun attack and torture humans too.
Get these incompetents off the Force!
There are TWO VERY SEPERATE ISSUES.
To put them together is illogical and doesn’t address either issue.
#1. Yes, owners who let dogs run loose should be held more responsible..Fine them big time.fine.
#2. Police acting brutally macho-— a dog-fighting band of brothers types in this case——and unprofessionally make me very nervous..now its “just a dog”..but we have plenty of videos with the police brutality with people.
I support the police, they have a tough job, there are many good cops. But this crap and any police brutality has made my view of them very very different.
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