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At 6,000 years old, wine press is oldest yet found
Yahoo News ^ | January 11, 2011 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 01/11/2011 10:39:07 AM PST by La Lydia

Archeologists have unearthed the oldest wine-making facility ever found, using biochemical techniques to identify a dry red vintage made about 6,000 years ago in what is now southern Armenia. The excavation paints a picture of a complex society where mourners tasted a special vintage made at a caveside cemetery, the researchers reported on Tuesday in the Journal of Archaeological Science.

"This is the world's oldest known installation to make wine," Gregory Areshian of the University of California Los Angeles, who helped lead the study, said ...

Carbon dating showed a desiccated grape vine found near a wine press was grown around 4000 BC, his team reported. This makes it 1,000 years older than any other wine-making facility discovered, the team from Armenia, the United States and Ireland reported...

The wine press would have held a few gallons of juice and crushed grapes, likely working with the time-honored technique of barefoot stomping, Areshian said.

"This was a relatively small installation related to the ritual inside the cave. For daily consumption they would have had much larger wine presses in the regular settlement," said Areshian, who was deputy prime minister in the first government of the independent Republic of Armenia in 1991.

Chemical traces point to grape juice and, given the lack of refrigeration, the juice would certainly have been fermented into wine, Areshian said...

The expedition, paid for in part by the National Geographic Society, also uncovered copper processing equipment. Areshian said the team would detail those findings later.

The cave complex, known as Areni-1, is in the Little Caucasus Mountains near Armenia's southern border with Iran.

The press itself is a shallow clay basin about three feet (one meter) in diameter, surrounded by grape seeds and dried-out grape vines...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; godsgravesglyphs; history
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Same team earlier found the world's oldest shoe.
1 posted on 01/11/2011 10:39:14 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Wow. We were making wine within 15 years of the creation of the universe!


2 posted on 01/11/2011 10:42:19 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 721 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Amazing innit?


3 posted on 01/11/2011 10:43:55 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: SunkenCiv

dregs of civilization ping


4 posted on 01/11/2011 10:44:46 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: null and void
You bass turd!!!

You beat me to it.

5 posted on 01/11/2011 10:44:46 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: La Lydia

I recall the shoe. We should get quite a good look at this culture given the remarkable state of preservation.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:28 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: null and void

Dang, beat me!!!!


7 posted on 01/11/2011 10:46:09 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: starlifter

};^P>


8 posted on 01/11/2011 10:46:38 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 721 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: org.whodat
Life's GOOD!
9 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:20 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 721 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


10 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:53 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: La Lydia

At 6,000 years old, skeleton found next to wine press is oldest drunk yet found


11 posted on 01/11/2011 10:48:50 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: null and void
In fact, if you think about it, the tree from which the press was made had to be growing BEFORE creation!!!

This is hugh and series!!!!!!

12 posted on 01/11/2011 10:49:35 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

No trees were killed to make this press.


13 posted on 01/11/2011 10:51:40 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 721 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
LOL. Mankind was no doubt fermenting whatever could be fermented within 15 minutes of discovering that alcohol lowers a woman's sexual inhibitions and makes for a fun weekend!
14 posted on 01/11/2011 10:52:07 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Makes ‘em prettier too...


15 posted on 01/11/2011 10:54:57 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 721 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: La Lydia
The wine press would have held a few gallons of juice and crushed grapes, likely working with the time-honored technique of barefoot stomping,

Wouldn't the wine press eliminate the need for old fashioned barefoot stomping?

16 posted on 01/11/2011 10:56:11 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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the tree from which the press was made had to be growing BEFORE creation!!!

Nonsense. Even the most ardent YEC will acknowledge (or even insist) that the first living things of whatever type would or could have been created "full grown".

I'm surprised it took Adam and Eve tens of years to figure out that fermented grape juice had distinct advantages over the raw kind ...

17 posted on 01/11/2011 11:00:54 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: La Lydia; null and void

The New Year’s Eve parties, those first 15 years, were very boring.


18 posted on 01/11/2011 11:05:04 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: starlifter

Judaism (upon whom the YEC rely) readily admits the calendar is increasingly unreliable the farther one gets from the Second Temple.

The insistence upon it being literal is unique to Christians, I believe.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 11:05:24 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: La Lydia
also uncovered copper processing equipment

Get your copper kettle,

Get your copper coil,

Get yourself some corn mash,

And never more you'll toil...

20 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:05 AM PST by JoeFromSidney
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