Posted on 12/18/2010 10:33:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
With the passage of the law to repeal the Clinton-era legislation commonly referred to as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," President Obama enters into a new reality. In one last blaze of defiance of the American people, and expressly those who serve in our nation's armed forces, President Obama was able to shove social engineering into pretty much the very corner of American culture where we have no business doing so.
Upon his signature President Obama will begin a process that will at the very least disrupt operations, and at the very worst see the eventual weakening of our armed forces.
Throughout the entirety of this debate I've had questions, none of which seemed to be answered or even asked in the congressional sessions dealing with the matter.
From a purely pragmatic standpoint perhaps someone could answer them now, since I'm especially sure that President Obama wouldn't push for such a fundamental transformation of our military without good answers to them.
1. What happens to housing, on base and in theater?
If it is morally questionable to have men and women housed together because of the sexual tension that exists between primarily men who would be predatorily interested in the women they might shower with or frequently be seen in the act of dressing and undressing on a regular basis, why is it any different if you have identified the predatory homosexual male who might have an unrequited "thing" for a fellow service member? If it is proper to keep men and women housed separately do we now go to four sets of housing. Men who don't engage in homosexual activity, Men who do, Women who don't, Women who do? Practically speaking Mr. President how do you get past the fundamental sexual tension that will be present the minute some make it known?
2. Do you expect the military system or the civilian courts to deal with the influx of phony sexual harassment cases to follow?
Consider this issue a prediction of sorts, but take it to the bank that those who engage in open homosexuality will feel the freedom if not the need begin to portray themselves as victims of harassment pretty much anytime something doesn't go their way. And it may not require anything all that severe to trigger it. A drill instructor gets a little too rough in his language while trying to beat the "sissy" out of a recruit in basic training or Officer Candidate School and the backlog will commence.
3. Will base commanders be required to host "pride" events that allow for similar conduct to the x-rated displays that go on in the nation's cities each year?
There was much discussion in the Senate and House hearings about the issue of morale, the breakdown of structure, the significance of discipline and the ability to command respect and a readied force. Nothing related to any "pride" event ever held comes close to anything resembling respect, discipline, or structure. There is a reason our best volunteer to serve their nation, and it has nothing to do with speedos, bump or grind.
4. Will all other sexual conduct be made legal as well?
It is still a crime to commit adultery in active military duty, and even more so for officers. How can you possibly be allowing for the flamboyancy of effeminate male soldiers to engage in sexual conduct and their notorious ever wandering lust for the new on one hand, and hold court martial for those who have discreetly hidden their sexual escapades while destroying their families?
There are many legitimate reasons why the military is not the place to run experiments on the restructuring of the society at large.
For the leftist idiots who will scream the meme that, "every other nation on the planet already does it," shut up!
None of those military forces are the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines.
I know the progressive elites in the nation awake this morning feeling better about what has been done to the U.S. Military in this vote. I know this President has never served and likely barely knows anyone who has. I know that the godless in our nation think this is all a tremendous step forward.
In the hundreds of conversations I've had with those that serve in our nation's armed forces, from Naval F-18 aviators to Army Rangers, Marine specialists to Air Force pilots of B2 stealth bombers, C130s, and military drones, the view of the military is clear. They serve to focus on the mission at hand, not because they may or may not display pictures of their romantic interests in the living quarters.
I know that our military has been the best in the world, and that they deserved to be listened to when they spoke clearly from the four branches to the President. The head of each branch clearly made the case for not allowing the military to become a place where the focus of our troops was placed on when and how they can have sex, instead of achieving their mission.
But now that reality has been thrust upon us. It is a focus of magnificent distraction, and in terms of operational priorities it is of miniscule importance.
It was President Obama's doing, and the results that follow will be laid at his feet.
Prepare for floral designed fatigues. /puke
Does this ASS make my truck look big?
Except we really aren't anymore. It is time we get our heads around that.
To wit:
Our dollar is worth but a fraction of what it once did, and it is heading south..
Superpowers loan money, not borrow it.
Superpowers have natural resources, and they use them to manufacture things. Those goods are then sold across the globe, making the superpower, well, a super power. We don't do that anymore.
Superpowers have strong leaders who are admired and respected around the world. We don't have that going on.
Superpowers make themselves critical to the economies and security of other nations. They all could survive just fine without us.
Superpowers hold education as one of the most priceless and valuable features of their culture. The US? Not so much. Most high school grads are no where near as smart as a 5th grader in India.
Superpowers have innovation and celebrate excellence in science and technology. What have we done lately? We have the iPad. And Google. And freaking Twitter.
Need I go on? We have the most amazing soldiers and sailors on the planet, but we no longer have the full force of a superpower government to back them up. Watch how fast we bail on Afghanistan.
The United States invented the concept of superpower. Now we can only hope for a seat at the table.
We were great once and we can be again. But start letting that idea sink in: sadly there is nothing super about America's power anymore.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
A bald faced lie!
The late, great American Military. RIP
The Republican Party just needs to make it clear that they intend to reinstate the ban in 2 years. If you come out or enlist in the meantime, your career will be quite truncated...
I think you’re right.
The casting couch now moves to the commodants office.
What is that? Did she walk out of Wal Mart with a TV under there?
People who engage in homosexual acts demean their bodies and have no honor or character. That is what the homosexual muslim in the white house wants.
He wants a military devoid of morality—like the homosexual Nazi Brownshirts (and Hitler who also had a sexual perversion as do a lot of serial killers such as Dahmers, Gacy, etc.
He wants to recreate Pagan Rome and Greece or the homosexual ancient Japanese armies. He wants to destroy the US.
The best way to do that is destroy the moral character of the servicemen—to make them like the Nazis and the inhumane Russian (atheist) military.
Patton loathed the inhumanity of the Russians.
It is the Christian paradigm that made our military the best in the world and the most humane in the history of all armies. No other army has been as great.
ROFLMAO. You are too funny.
Somehow, “rear admiral” just has a different meaning today than it did yesterday.
One thing that never gets mentioned is that of the 17000 discharges the homosexual agenda crowd constant bemoans, almost 100 percent of those are people who came forward and submitted a request to be discharged. What gets even less press is that almost 100 percent of those requesting discharge are either facing a pending deployment or, in the case of the Navy, about to wash out of the nuclear power program and get sent to the fleet as “nuclear waste” a fate most wish to avoid. You will now see a spike in people claiming drug use or actually doing drugs to get out. What made the homosexual discharge so appealing is that the DD-214 said “honorable discharge”
Thomas Jefferson wrote homosexuality should have a harsher punishment than bestiality. He stated it is more dangerous to society.
I do not think the military should be used for social engineering. Whats next/ Unions for soldiers? They can strike for better wages? Elections of Officers from the ranks as more “Democratic?” Where do we stop? When will these “reforms” end in lives being lost, battles lost and the USA occupied by foreigners? How many will die over this? How many Gay soldiers will be fragged in battle? maybe I’m wrong but it seems like a way to win votes with the gay community and not a way to win wars.
15 years ago I was seeing a single mother in the base hospital ER. She was an E-3 with a chart 4 inches thick. We looked at it carefully and discovered that this girl had been on sick call and quarters more often than formation.
At the time the gun grabbers were thinking they would make some strides against us and I remember telling my partner, “Actually, this is a good thing. We may have to fight this army ourselves someday. (pointing at her) This is the army I want to fight...”
Yeah, the day may come when we are pretty happy the army is mostly homos and single mothers.
Well one of the reasons most young men join the combat corps is because generally its a place where you can be yourself - a heterosexual man. I know there is no way in hell I would have joined the Army when I was younger if I would have had to share barracks etc with homosexuals.
So now homosexuals can watch their fellow soldiers get naked. They can interrogate enemy troops. They can now do all manner of things.
It is obviously a disgrace. Not just for the USA but all nations that have embraced similar laws.
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