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Blam! Kapow! Climate Scientists in Verbal Brawl
Foxnews ^ | December 03, 2010 | Blake Snow

Posted on 12/03/2010 10:01:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Blam! Kapow! Smack! The bell has rung for the latest round of climate talks, but the battle continues among climate scientists too, making only one thing truly clear -- the science of global warming simply isn't settled.

Climate science suffered a black eye over the past 12 months, following revelations that the latest report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) contained numerous errors and relied too heavily on questionable sources. At the latest climate conference in Cancun, the group will stress that its research must continue. 

But while governments try to push through an accord, the fighting over the science -- and the IPCC's role -- continues unabated. And the body blows seem as violent as ever.

"The corruption within the IPCC revealed by the Climategate scandal, the doctoring of data and the refusal to admit mistakes have so severely tainted the IPCC that it is no longer a credible agency," Don Easterbrook, a professor of geology at Western Washington University, declared in an interview with FoxNews.com. "Thus, it is no longer in a position to claim to speak for climate scientists."

Ouch. Former weather forecaster and climate-change blogger Anthony Watts isn't as outspoken as Easterbrook, but he agrees that the IPCC is failing.

"Recent sloppy work such as the 'Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035' blunder, the questionable use of scientific citations in the last IPCC report, and the suspect business dealings of IPCC chairman Rajenda Pachauri have pretty much taken what most saw as a grade A scientific paper when first published and reduced it to a D minus today," Watts told FoxNews.com.

Even those who believe man's actions are raising the planet's temperature admit that the U.N.'s climate group has struggled.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cancun; climatechange; climategate; corruption; democrats; envirofascism; fail; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; ipcc; junkscience; manbearpig; un; wikigate; wikileaks
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1 posted on 12/03/2010 10:01:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; Brad's Gramma; ...

Well...at least it is starting to make it to the Media.


2 posted on 12/03/2010 10:03:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The science of global warming...simply isn’t science.


3 posted on 12/03/2010 10:05:27 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Put it on Pay-Per-View.


4 posted on 12/03/2010 10:07:22 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Even those who believe man's actions are raising the planet's temperature admit that the U.N.'s climate group has struggled.

Good grief, talking about drinking the Koolaid. With all the scandals and phoney research, they still can't consider that we're in a cooling trend that is due to lack of sunspots?

5 posted on 12/03/2010 10:10:52 PM PST by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
Thanx Ernest !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/03/2010 10:11:31 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Beautiful! A sight to behold.

I wish I had front row seats.


7 posted on 12/03/2010 10:13:14 PM PST by calcowgirl (“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life” —Lindzen)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They should be tried for fraud and put in jail for crimes against humanity.

Pray for America


8 posted on 12/03/2010 10:16:50 PM PST by bray (Sarah Palin will destroy the Repub Party, hopfully!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Taking a page from the left and their 1980's-era bumper stickers:

"Global Warming is Neither"

Cheers!

9 posted on 12/03/2010 10:30:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Conservative media need to stretch this thing out.

The left would love for this all to be swept under the rug, for everyone to forget that they almost caused the world economy to fail, so they can escape scot-free and move on to the next "catastophe" (really just a plot to take down the West).

We can't let them. The public needs to be educated good and thoroughly about just what they tried to do and how deep the lies and corruption ran.

10 posted on 12/03/2010 10:31:07 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Ladysmith

Where do you get your data that we are in a ten-year colling cycle? It was just announced today: “The year 2010 will be one of the warmest ever, climaxing a record-breaking decade, the UN’s World Meteorological Organization said at global climate talks Thursday.”

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/foreign-news/23515-2010-warmest-year-ever.html

We can’t be experiencing one of the warmest decades ever and be in the middle of a cooling spell, can we? Where do your data come from?


11 posted on 12/03/2010 10:32:48 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I feel a song coming on.
12 posted on 12/03/2010 10:43:43 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Jail these people for fraud against humanity.


13 posted on 12/03/2010 10:45:57 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What part of "hoax" and "fraud" don't they understand? They just can't come to grips with the fact that the honey hole of government grants is drying up and that their handwringing doesn't scare anybody anymore.

They're starting to sound like the 21st century version of the flat earth society.

14 posted on 12/03/2010 10:46:18 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: worst-case scenario
We can’t be experiencing one of the warmest decades ever and be in the middle of a cooling spell, can we?
You forgot to close with < /sarcasm/rhetorical question >
15 posted on 12/03/2010 10:47:57 PM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairatx movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Dear U.N.,

The concensus is......that you suck.


16 posted on 12/03/2010 10:49:09 PM PST by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It takes a lot of work to float a scam and maintain it.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 10:57:31 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My husband said he heard that some one or some group was calling for the prosecution of Al Gore. Because he was out of his truck for a bit he didn’t hear who it is. Has anybody else heard anything about it?


18 posted on 12/03/2010 11:07:08 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
At the latest climate conference in Cancun...

Nice vacation: Climate conference expected to generate little but tropical fun for attendees

If you have to go to a 12-day climate change conference where little is expected to be accomplished, balmy Cancun on Mexico's Mayan Riviera isn't a bad choice.

I'm sure all these scumbag hypocrites pedaled their bikes to this "conference" so as not to leave a "carbon footprint".
Yeah.

19 posted on 12/03/2010 11:16:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: worst-case scenario
We can't be experiencing one of the warmest decades ever and be in the middle of a cooling spell, can we? Where do your data come from?

When hearing the annual "warmest ever" press release, you need to keep on mind just how elusive any real measurement of "global temperature" is. There is a certain absurdity to the concept.

Even if you accept the idea that there is such a thing as a global temp that is indicative of anything, you have to keep in mind that the planet, at all its heights and all its depth, isn't blanketed with weather stations, and certainly wasn't 100 years ago. So coming up with a "global temp" necessarily requires a ton of assumptions, suppositions, guesses, and statistical manipulations performed by the same people with a vested interest in discovering the next "warmest ever". And the funny thing is their assumptions, when examined by outside observers like McEntire (sp?) always lean in one direction. Which isn't surprising, since after Climategate their careers and reputations are hanging by a thread.

These people,deeply. invested in this movement as they are, finding another "warmest ever" in the wake of the scandal was as predictable as the sunrise, and rather pathetic. They have been exposed, and collectively have too much riding on the outcome of their so-called science to be trusted.

20 posted on 12/04/2010 12:04:42 AM PST by Minn
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