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$11,000 fine, arrest possible for some who refuse airport scans and pat downs
SunSentinel.com ^ | 11/20/10 | John Lantigua

Posted on 11/20/2010 7:31:28 AM PST by chickadee

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is warning that any would-be commercial airline passenger who enters an airport checkpoint and then refuses to undergo the method of inspection designated by TSA will not be allowed to fly and also will not be permitted to simply leave the airport.

That person will have to remain on the premises to be questioned by the TSA and possibly by local law enforcement. Anyone refusing faces fines up to $11,000 and possible arrest.

"Once a person submits to the screening process, they can not just decide to leave that process," says Sari Koshetz, regional TSA spokesperson, based in Miami.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 11; 1984; airport; eleven; enemyofthestate; scanners; tanda; tsa; tsapervs; tyranny; usandthem
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; Jim Robinson
I just filled out my Fire Arm License and will have it in the mail first thing Monday morning.

The 2nd Amendment should not only be withheld but it should be cherished as important as the 1st Amendment.

I never thought I would be so afraid in my own country that I would have to apply for a gun license.

I'm going to make sure that myself as well as my family are protected.

And to Jim, God Bless You for all that you have done for every single person on this phenomenal website. You Sir, are a Saint.

281 posted on 11/20/2010 4:30:06 PM PST by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!! Go Bears!!!)
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To: All

Sounds like the TSA is now into kidnapping and settling for a $11,000 ransom.


282 posted on 11/20/2010 4:31:07 PM PST by The Theophilus
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To: American Constitutionalist

They can’t shut down anyone without the due process of a trial.

These Fat cats are acting as if the constitution did not exist? I think that these guys are treasonous Asshaoles!!


283 posted on 11/20/2010 4:33:03 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: csvset

Of course, if you are able to pay a fine of $11,000, you will have tripped the $10,000 threshold for further investigation and for failing to declare you are traveling with that much cash. Additionally, it might be seized as terrorist or drug money, with the burden of proof on the person with the cash to prove it was theirs. If not performed, they could probably seize everything you own based upon the same drug and antiterrorist laws.


284 posted on 11/20/2010 4:44:49 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: EGPWS

I have heard TSA has some of the backscatter machines at some rail stations. I am looking into rail for a long trip as a substitute for flying early next year, nevada/southeastern US eats a couple of days...


285 posted on 11/20/2010 5:00:54 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I’m sure the “professional” TSA agents we have would never steal or plant anything. Oh, wait. They already do that.


286 posted on 11/20/2010 5:05:07 PM PST by matt04
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To: chickadee
Note that the article says “some” may have to pay the fine.

Muslims are exempt.

287 posted on 11/20/2010 5:05:55 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

pretty sure UAL went bankrupt once since 1990, so all shares from 1990 are worth exactly zero, and have been canceled. Totally different series of stock trading now.


288 posted on 11/20/2010 5:14:24 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: donhunt
Should I ever fly again I’m going to stuff a big salami in my undies.

I can't do that, not enough room for a second one.....

289 posted on 11/20/2010 5:19:04 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: chickadee

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I’d say that Zerobama is trying to destroy one more industry.

The airlines are rocking like they always do at Christmas and Thanksgiving...so what better way to take them down than to scare the begezzus out of folks during the holidays.

Tell me where I’m wrong?


290 posted on 11/20/2010 5:27:03 PM PST by luvie (Atlas has shrugged)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
"THAT IS TOTAL SUBMISSION."

Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that "1984" was only a fictional story about an alien society on another planet and ended up as a "B" movie because it was just too unbelievable.

291 posted on 11/20/2010 5:27:07 PM PST by Eastbound ( 3-7-77)
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To: Diogenesis

Outstanding! Thanks for posting this.


292 posted on 11/20/2010 5:40:37 PM PST by Eastbound ( 3-7-77)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

On the frequent flyer web site, flyertalk.com, they call Pistole “Pissy.”

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Perfect, since pistole (pronounced:piss-toe-lee) is Spanish for pistol. hehe


293 posted on 11/20/2010 5:47:49 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Noumenon; 444Flyer

Thank you so much for the link to your brilliant essay. I missed it the first time around.

Just as the TSA does its evil work behind an illigitimate badge of authority - for “our safety and security” of course - the entire subset of destoyers advances incrementally behind a shield of plausible deniability. When that cover is blown, they reveal their true intent with their swords. Without the mask, the smiling do-gooder authoritarians are exposed for what they are, murders doing the will of their father.

IOW, what you said. Killers without conscience. I see Islam as the current view of what’s really behind the cultured facades of peace and economic security. Scratch a statist, find a Muslim, watch your head.


294 posted on 11/20/2010 6:09:02 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Your posts make too much sense and contain far too much rationality and logic for the comprehension of those responding with simplistic notions of what the terrorist threat is, and how best to combat it. Ya might want to dumb it down a little. LOL!


296 posted on 11/20/2010 6:51:27 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: metmom

My wife and I took a trip to Niagara Falls in Oct. of 2007. We first talked about flying and this was before things got really absurd at the airports but when I checked prices and travel times I came to the conclusion that we could be more than halfway there by car before we could get to our destination airport and then we would need to rent a car. That did it for me, we simply drove up and had a nice long vacation, going to Vermont and seeing Lake Champlain and all that with no airport hassles. I refuse to go anywhere that I would have to fly now unless it is somehow a life or death matter and I don’t think that is going to happen.


297 posted on 11/20/2010 7:17:09 PM PST by RipSawyer (Clem Hussein Kadiddlehopper would be a vast improvement.)
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To: RipSawyer

You really do have to go pretty far to make flying cost and time effective. What with the time involved in getting through the airports, the risk of delayed flights, picking up luggage if you’re unfortunate enough to have to take some, car rental costs, etc, you need to have about an 8 hour drive to break even.

Sadly, my oldest daughter is out in LA for grad school and we’re across the country. Flying is the only realistic way for her to get back.

Besides, she bought her airline tickets back in September, while you could still get flights for Christmas at a somewhat reasonable rate.

Then this (bleep) happened.

I’m not sure what she’ll do but hopefully this will settle down some by the time she has to fly. Course, she’s so skinny that she couldn’t effectively hide anything on her person. And the TSA personnel at Rochester and Syracuse TO DATE have not been unreasonable, not like I’ve heard of elsewhere. But they’re pretty small airports.


298 posted on 11/20/2010 8:31:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mean Maryjean
And THAT, my friend, is precisely what they want you to do. Don’t fly. Period. Everyone...just stop flying. Period. I agree that this is deliberate, intended to produce a specific outcome...not “security,” not “safety,” but an absolute intended, desired outcome. Reduce flying...reduce mobility...control. God help us. Be afraid...be very afraid.

I worked with a guy back in the late 70's who talked like that. When the first gas *shortage* started he said it was the government trying to decrease mobility and the movement of the populace and that it was all about gaining control of us by restricting our ease of movement.

It sounded a lot crazier back then. Nobody took him really seriously, but it did stick in my mind and after all these years, what he was warning us about is becoming more and more apparent as the days go by.

Yeah, it sounds conspiracy theory-ist, but there's good reason for that now.

299 posted on 11/20/2010 8:37:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ouderkirk
It strikes me that one could kill a hell of a lot more people in the screening line in most of the larger airports.

You're 100% right. I had a ridiculous argument with some co-workers who actually think this is all something we just need to submit to. I told them they're flat out idiots, because the terrorists can simply detonate a bomb vest in the clogged security line. I mean, if they really want to destroy the airline industry, Napolitano and Obama have given it to them on a silver platter. First, create a situation that repulses the public and makes them extremely reluctant, then demonstrate its uselessness by coming in commando style and mowing everyone down. That will turn airports into ghost towns overnight.

300 posted on 11/20/2010 9:31:54 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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