http://www.blog.joelx.com/odds-chances-of-dying/877/
Posted on 11/20/2010 7:31:28 AM PST by chickadee
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is warning that any would-be commercial airline passenger who enters an airport checkpoint and then refuses to undergo the method of inspection designated by TSA will not be allowed to fly and also will not be permitted to simply leave the airport.
That person will have to remain on the premises to be questioned by the TSA and possibly by local law enforcement. Anyone refusing faces fines up to $11,000 and possible arrest.
"Once a person submits to the screening process, they can not just decide to leave that process," says Sari Koshetz, regional TSA spokesperson, based in Miami.
(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...
http://www.blog.joelx.com/odds-chances-of-dying/877/
I had some items stolenout of my bags from a flight yesterday
some meds and my deoderant
So that begs the question, when will the scanners and groping start at federal insured banks? After all there are more bank robberies in one day then all the terrorist actions on airplanes in a year. We have reports of people bringing weapons into federal insured banks with the intent to commit crimes. So the logical conclusion would be that the federal government must now control access to banks, all in the cause of safety plus to prevent both financial and human loses.
“Then by that logic we should just shoot anyone trying to flee the scene. Better yet, we should shoot anyone that refuses to go to the airport and “volunteer” for screening. In fact, that means we would screen everyone every day to ensure they are not avoiding the airport and shoot anyone that has not been screened in the past 24 hours.”
You’re dead on about incrementalism. We already don’t have the right to travel without being searched. It’s not in the Constitution, so it can’t be a real right, evidently, 10th Amendment be damned. Screening your car or person when you leave your property is technically legal, by the way the judges have already decided things, at least viewed pragmatically. The only question is how long before we have house-to-house searches “to keep us safe,” and get the transition from republic to globoligarchy over with. Maybe the clowns running the show will be lucky enough to have another MOVE-type event take place, in order to make things seem dangerous enough for them to overtly step beyond the front stoops of folks’ homes.
That is one of the best graphics/charts I have ever seen. Not only is it beautiful, but it is clear and easy to understand. (I usually fail miserably at charts.)
I care more about liberty and freedom than I do about the fiscal condition of the airlines....their bottom line has been lousy for years, even when the economy was good.
I recently found an old copy of the business section of the L.A. Times in a cardboard box in a closet. It was from 1990. For the hell of it, I looked up the prices of stock back then. UAL, the parent company of United Air Lines, was selling for over one hundred dollars per share. The price per share now is a mere shadow of it’s former value.
I’m hoping the airlines will give campaign contributions to congress critters who will fight this nonsense at the airports.....if the airlines scream at congress for some common sense, perhaps they’ll have better luck than us peons, because so far, congress is ignoring the complaints of “We the People.”
America -- a great idea, didn't last.
There are people on this site that would agree to nightly home searches as long as “it keeps us safe”. From what, they do not know, they just want to “feel safe.”
We have a constitution to protect ourselves from such feeble minded cowards.
You are correct.
America -- a great idea, didn't last.
I’m so glad I found it in my search. Good on that site for posting it.
I wouldn’t say that Chertoff is a victim of guilt by association....however, he is in the private sector now, and has been making tons of money by being a corporate officer of one of the companies that manufacture these naked scanners.
Bush gave us TSA. He should have just armed the pilots and put an armed marshal on flights. And profiled Muzzies. In fact, that’s what should be done now. America used to be a practical country. It has become a muddled mess.
Scary post.
Life was easier in Nazi Germany with SS thugs demanding “Ihre Papiere!” than it is no in our airport security lines.
Turning the might of the Federal Gubamint on grannies and kiddies under sanction o fine or prison? Submit or walk?
What have we come to?
By the time you're answering those 'intrusive' questions, you've already been selected as a person of interest by the ticket, payment, and those flags kicked off from a scan though various listings. In simple terms - profiling.
And, you base this on personal experience, or just from what you've read?
I've flown into Israel a number of times. Several times as an active-duty member of the US Navy. They "interrogate" everyone. Some people, they just interrogate more.
Can you imagine just going to Grandmas house......"You allow us to grope, scan and take pictures of your private parts, or we fine you $11,000 dollars".
This government is so damn out of control
I'm with you on the liberty and freedom part but this isn't the airlines doing, it's the Federal Government.
What the airlines do about it remains to be seen and they better fight this tooth and nail or they won't last long.
I’m hoping the airlines will give campaign contributions to congress critters who will fight this nonsense at the airports.....
So in the end this is just another shakedown from this fascist Government, quite possible or maybe it's a way for the bamster to Nationalize the industry when it goes belly up.
There is a goal here, just what it is hasn't become clear yet.
One thing is for sure, the goal is not security.
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