Mark Rubios Parents

vanity | Nov 6, 2010 | Chatter4

[chatter4]

With all the talk of many conservatives hoping that Mark Rubio could one day run for President, I have a few questions. From the information available on the Web, It is said that Mark Rubio's parents were here in exile from Cuba. That would imply that they had hopes of returning there one day. Did his parents ever become US citizens? Did they become US citizens prior to Mark's birth?

[Jess79]

Maybe they were Cuban citizens at the time of Marco Rubio’s birth, maybe they were not. The only thing that matters is that Marco was born here, on US soil and thus, is subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

For any other elected office, that is true, but chatter4 posted the topic in relation to Marco becoming President someday. Natural born citizens are persons born in the US of parents who are citizens.

[ArmyTeach]

Cuban, unless someone else knows otherwise?

[jessduntno]

“...and thus open the flood gates of a certin President...”

You misspelled Cretin ...

[freekitty]

You are correct.

[mkboyce]

Both parents? Per whose definition?

[SatinDoll]

We know that. But were his parents naturalized citizens before his birth?

[truth_seeker]

“Hate to pile on, but the path to Atomic Energy was discovered in Europe as well.”

I have read that natural born is interchangable with native born.

Found it read into the Congrssional Record pertaining to George Romney, who was not native born, and hence not eligible.

It is legal opinion, not law.

[Texas Fossil]

His parents were like this, in my book they are Americans.

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“Born American, But in the Wrong Place”

By Peter W. Schramm

http://www.claremont.org/publications/pubid.5/pub_detail.asp

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note— One of the best reads I have ever found. Excellent.

[MARTIAL MONK]

Marco's father died in September. He did not live to see his son elected Senator although things were looking good at the time of his passing.

Thank you Mario Rubio and may God Bless.

[Arizona Carolyn]

What difference does that make?

[truth_seeker]

Here is the article, published in the Congressional Record of the House une 14, 1967.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/natural-born-congressional-record-house-june-14-1967/

From article:

“The Constitution itself does not define the term natural-born citizen. At the time of the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, under the common law, the terms native born citizen and natural born citizen were synonymous, but. the customary usage was to refer to such type of citizenship as “natural born” Instead of “native born.””

[Rockingham]

Marco Rubio's parents no doubt became US citizens like their fellow emigres did. Special provisions eased the citizenship process for Cuban emigres and they took them up with enthusiasm.

[TigersEye]

Good catch.

[TigersEye]

The only thing that matters is that Marco was born here, on US soil and thus, is subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Someone born on U.S. soil to foreign parents is subject to the jurisdiction of their parent's home country. That is what that means.

[Noob1999]

......................You misspelled Cretin ...........

Oops! that was a whoreiffic mistake as applied to our president and chief wookie!

I sure hope that they will have a wonderful Indian video conference call with all the Indian officials.

OH! wait a moment!

Coupl’a $$$$ hundred million per day to talk to them???

Geez, maybe they should cash in their Denny’s waffle coupons and get some free Orange Juice at those prices!!

[Cobra64]

You may want to get the man's name right.

Here's a link to his acceptance speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBrO7VmB5fM

[WhiskeyX]

That analysis used a number of false and erroneous statements and claims. English common law was not the source of law for all jurisdictions of the United States at the time of the adoption of the U.S. Constitution. Each of the states was responsible for establishing its own citizenship and naturalization laws following their declaration of independence from Great Britain. A uniform system of naturalization law for all of the United States did not occur until decades into the 19th Century following the adoption of the U.S. Constitution. Until then, the requirements for citizenship differed from one state to the next in the United States of America, and these states used a variety of Continental European (Ancien Regime), english Common Law, and natural law principles from England, France, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Rome, and more.

Alexander Hamilton proposed to make any citizen of the United States eligible for the Office of the President so long as the age and residency requirements were also satisfied. John Jay objected and asked for the qualifications to require a natural born citizen requirement. The erroneous analysis omits the obvious distinction that a natural born citizen requirement is superfluous and quite unnecessary if the intent was to authorize any U.S. citizen to be eligible to the Office of the President. Even the English Common law being cited required two citizen parents for the child to be deemed to have English/British citizenship by jus sanguinnis.

The whole issue was about a determination of which sovereign could claim the allegiance of a child at the time of the child’s birth. Dual citizenship was not recognized and was an impossibility at the time the laws and the U.S. Constitution were written and practiced. It is quite clear whether using Charles Vattel’s Law of Nations, blacksone’s Commentaries, or the ancient laws and traditions of Roman law common to Europe and America; citizenship followed the citizenship of the parents or the father, unless you were born in the Jurisdiction of the Sovereign of Great Britain. Under the naturalization laws of the some states after the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, birth upon U.S. soil sometimes was not enough to qualify for citizenship in that state and thereby the United States.

The person presently calling himself Barack Hussein Obama II is on public record acknowledging that his father was a citizen of Great Britain at the time of his own birth. Vattel’s Law of Nations used by John Jay and the other authors of the U.S. Constitution defined a natural born citizen as the child of two parents having U.S. citizenship at the time of the child’s birth. Obviously, even he acknowledges that he did not have the requisite two U.S. citizen parents and undivided loyalty to the United States at the time of his birth.

[Lou Budvis]

The “subject to the jurisdiction” appears to refer to the children born to diplomats of foreign countries who are in the US. See also: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html

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Can anyone name one single case that holds that mere birth citizenship does not allow a person to be President? or one section of the US code or its regulations? Just one thing that backs up this notion that people who are citizens by birth are somehow different than natural born citizens for the purposes of becoming President?

[TigersEye]

The fact that the Constitution specifically makes the distinction. Otherwise it would be ridiculous to state that a President and Vice President had to be “natural born” citizens.

[bushpilot1]

Research the word Kind as an adjective it means natural..going back in time..Kind means natural descent. The word is related to Kindred, Kin, indegenous...it goes back to gecynde..to a latin word..meaning heritage. A natural born citzen means descent from citizen parents. In life we descend not ascend unless of course you are Christ. [IMG]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/ScreenHunter_11Nov040628.gif[/IMG]