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US House puts oceans, coasts under UN: Senate vote will seal the deal
http://theintelhub.com ^ | 9-22-2010 | Carmen Reynolds, Paul McKain and Karen Schoen

Posted on 09/23/2010 8:24:21 AM PDT by Whenifhow

Piece by piece, America being given away

“It’s too late; it’ll just have to be stopped in the Senate,” Tom, the young male answering the phone in U.S. Rep. John Boehner’s (R-Ohio)Washington D.C. office, said about HR 3534 (CLEAR Act). This is the globalist bill designed to give away our land, oceans, adjacent land masses and Great Lakes to an international body, and makes us pay $900 million per year until 2040.

HR 3534 is a thinly disguised permanent roadblock to American energy which drives American companies out of the Gulf, delays future drilling, increases dependency on foreign oil, implements climate change legislation and youth education programs; but most important, it mandates membership in the Law of the Sea Treaty without the required two-thirds vote to ratify it in the U.S. Senate.

The House passed the CLEAR Act (HR 3534) 209-193, July 30, 2010. This bill was originally introduced July 8, 2009, but was resurrected by the recent Deep Water Horizon oil spill crisis. According to www.govtrack.us, a debate may be taking place on a companion bill in the Senate, rather than on this particular bill. This bill was read for the second time Aug. 4, 2010, and placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders, Calendar No. 510. No official Senate Bill number exists as of yet.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3534

(Excerpt) Read more at theintelhub.com ...


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Justify and Testify

Who do you think you are, elitists, elected and unelected officials, who thrive on darkness and back room discussions, that you can enact legislation without so much as reading it or announcing its number? Who do you think you are, that your snobbish disregard for the legality of the US Constitution now endangers this country in toto?

Justify yourselves.
You are accountable, as are your friends, cohorts and relatives.
You will be required to testify to all, and to God, for your actions.

You are answerable. To everyone. You will have to testify. To everyone.

How dare you.


61 posted on 09/23/2010 9:33:11 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“To make a treaty that sits outside the Constitution would be in violation of the Constitution.”

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Call and tell your senators it is against the constitution!

paragraph 2 at the link:
http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/22/17314/

HR 3534 is a thinly disguised permanent roadblock to American energy which drives American companies out of the Gulf, delays future drilling, increases dependency on foreign oil, implements climate change legislation and youth education programs; but most important, it mandates membership in the Law of the Sea Treaty without the required two-thirds vote to ratify it in the U.S. Senate. Read more at LOST below

Emphasis on WITHOUT 2/3 ratification vote.


62 posted on 09/23/2010 9:34:06 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Willie Green

I do not know whether I should tell you this or not Willie, but, they had passenger trains long before they had automobiles. That was one reason that the automobile was developed, the trains were not working out. They are good for what they are good for and nothing else.


63 posted on 09/23/2010 9:35:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: ibytoohi
It is well passed the the time FRiend.

The damage that is being down to our nation will be not be able to be repaired.

At the rate Obama is working there will be pretty much nothing left to fix.

Being overseas I can tell you that the Chinese and others are watching closely to what is happening and even they are in shock at how fast the decline is.

I'm in a position where I meet many foreign government officials and diplomats and I can tell you that many of them are shocked - just last night a Chinese diplomat remarked at how hostile Obama was to America.

Obama's fecklessness has and continues to embolden and incentivize our adversaries.

It is bad FRiends - very bad

64 posted on 09/23/2010 9:36:03 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Non-Sequitur
OK, the UN isn't mentioned anywhere in it. How's that for a start?

So, you didn't read it, either.

OK.

65 posted on 09/23/2010 9:36:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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To: expatguy

Tell us about it, we’re here under the lash, frankly, it’s amazing there isn’t a full scale civil war, but then, most people just think that everything will be okay because it always has been


66 posted on 09/23/2010 9:37:42 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Whenifhow

bflr


67 posted on 09/23/2010 9:37:58 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Whenifhow

The very first act of the new Congress must be to retroactively repeal this, and declare it to be an act of Treason.


68 posted on 09/23/2010 9:41:39 AM PDT by sourcery (Don't call them "liberals" or "progressives." The honest label is extreme anti-Constitutionalists!)
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To: expatguy

“Obama’s fecklessness has and continues to embolden and incentivize our adversaries.”

Then he and the forces amassed against us shall need another incentive, won’t they.


69 posted on 09/23/2010 9:41:49 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Whenifhow

Feature this: Our Fisheries given up. Oil given up, oil revenue given up to the muslim driven UN, to fund our own destruction.

Instead, why don’t they make turd world places like Africa self sufficient through their own means instead of making them village idiots funded by western civilization?


70 posted on 09/23/2010 9:43:00 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Whenifhow

Like EVERY “treaty,” it is a voluntary contract between the various parties and SOME FUTURE LEGISLATURE CAN ABROGATE, CANCEL, RESCIND OR JUST AS VOLUNTARILY WITHDRAW FROM THE DAMN THING.

And, pray tell, just HOW would a toothless UN keep us locked in — especially if we kick these freeloading bums out of the US and stop letting them pick our pockets for 25% of their funding.

BTW, those cute blue helmets make great targets!


71 posted on 09/23/2010 9:43:36 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
So, you didn't read it, either.

If you can find it then let me know what page it's on.

Link

72 posted on 09/23/2010 9:47:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: bamahead
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And before I’m accused of simply flogging the problem, the solution is to RE-ELECT ONLY those who pass Constitutional muster. Before you say “My guy’s doing a SWELL job,” check him out at http://www.gradegov.com/

BE SURE TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH ON 11/2!


73 posted on 09/23/2010 9:48:24 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Maybe the Democrats are being very sneaky here. Maybe they are putting snippets of the LOST treaty in separate bills.

The requirements would be met after all of the snippets are passed.

This would be the way around an outright vote on the Treaty.


74 posted on 09/23/2010 9:50:28 AM PDT by dforest
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To: sourcery
The very first act of the new Congress must be to retroactively repeal this, and declare it to be an act of Treason.


You do understand that this hasn't passed the Senate nor been signed into law.....

The following is the title page from which it is taken.

US House puts oceans, coasts under UN: Senate vote will seal the deal

September 22, 2010 by Alex

Filed under Constitution and Politics, Intel Hub Featured Articles, New World Order

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Piece by piece, America being given away

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75 posted on 09/23/2010 10:06:31 AM PDT by deport
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To: Dick Bachert

Fox news article
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301279,00.html

In 1982, Ronald Reagan, concerned about the treaty’s implications for our sovereignty and national security, formally rejected LOST because it did “not satisfy the objectives sought by the United States.” In 1994, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, anxious to appease One World Government advocates in his own party and at the United Nations, negotiated a parallel “Agreement” that purported to address Mr. Reagan’s concerns — and urged ratification. Since then, LOST has gathered dust in the bowels of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee. All that may be about to change. The deeply flawed, Soviet-era agreement giving unelected, unaccountable international bureaucrats control over 71 percent of the Earth’s surface is now on a fast track to ratification.

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Before casting a vote to ratify LOST, all 100 U.S. senators should read Article 314 of this onerous treaty and Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. The U.N.-crafted document specifies that amendments to the treaty can be adopted — and therefore enforced — without the consent of any signatory. Yet our Constitution requires that two thirds of our Senate concur in any treaty. Do 67 members of this Senate now want to surrender that authority to foreign governments?


76 posted on 09/23/2010 10:09:15 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
For what it's worth:

Notwithstanding concerns raised about the Law of the Sea Treaty - and there have been many - the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee recommended U.S. accession to the treaty in a unanimous vote in March 2004.

Six years later, a vote of the entire U.S. Senate has yet to be scheduled.

77 posted on 09/23/2010 10:12:48 AM PDT by deport
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To: Jeff Chandler
If rail travel were more efficient, it would be cheaper. Which it is not.

"Cheaper" and "most efficient" are not the same thing.

78 posted on 09/23/2010 10:39:07 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer – and some people polka.)
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To: Whenifhow
"Do 67 members of this Senate now want to surrender that authority to foreign governments?"

Hell, most -- not ALL -- but far too many of these 535 cretins on that hill at the east end of the Mall have for decades been happily and merrily shipping their authority and responsibility for the accountability laden heavy lifting of ACTUALLY GOVERNING this country down to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

If THAT was a good thing, SHIPPING/OUTSOURCING THAT RESPONSIBILITY FARTHER AWAY TO FACELESS BUREAUCRATS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY HAS TO BE WONDERFUL -- SIMPLY WONDERFUL!!

They could spend all that new free time doing what they've proven they do best -- having those 6 martini lunches with K-streeters at the Palm, visiting hookers (or local glory holes), napping in their offices, hitting on staffers, ignoring constituents, counting their daily pay-offs from those K-streeters, etc., etc.

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79 posted on 09/23/2010 10:44:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Red Badger
Actually, SCOTUS disagrees with IYAS9YAS and agrees with Red Badger. There was a case in the 1930s interpreting (applying?) a Migratory Bird Treaty with Canada. Litigants claimed that their 2nd Amendment RTKBA was infringed by provisions outlawing the hunting of Canadian geese flying over the US. SCOTUS essentially placed the treaty on a par with the Constitutional provision and, since the treaty was the later enactment, used well-recognized appellate standards to apply the treaty provisions in derogation of the 2nd Amendment RTKBA.

I learned this in law school which was a while back and, while freely acknowledging that this outrage is not on the top of my stack of things to obsess over, I do not believe that the SCOTUS decision in question has ever been overturned, modified or superseded.

This matter is a ticking time bomb which suggests that a treaty which purports to void the entire Bill of Rights would, if ratified, actually do so with no more than the signature of some Demonrat POTUS and 2/3 ratification by Demonrat and RINO Senators.

80 posted on 09/23/2010 10:56:31 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Burn 'em Bright!)
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