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Say Goodbye to Sunspots? (Goodbye, global warming; hello, little ice age)
Science Now ^ | 09/14/2010 | Phil Berardelli

Posted on 09/15/2010 9:38:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Scientists studying sunspots for the past 2 decades have concluded that the magnetic field that triggers their formation has been steadily declining. If the current trend continues, by 2016 the sun's face may become spotless and remain that way for decades—a phenomenon that in the 17th century coincided with a prolonged period of cooling on Earth.

Sunspots appear when upwellings of the sun's magnetic field trap ionized plasma—or electrically charged, superheated gas—on the surface. Normally, the gas would release its heat and sink back below the surface, but the magnetic field inhibits this process. From Earth, the relatively cool surface gas looks like a dark blemish on the sun.

...[S]cientists have long known that the sun goes through an 11-year cycle, in which the number of sunspots spikes during a period called the solar maximum and drops—sometimes to zero—during a time of inactivity called the solar minimum.

The last solar minimum should have ended last year, but something peculiar has been happening. Although solar minimums normally last about 16 months, the current one has stretched over 26 months—the longest in a century. One reason...is that the magnetic field strength of sunspots appears to be waning.

Since 1990, solar astronomers Matthew Penn and William Livingston...have been studying the magnetic strength of sunspots....Penn and Livingston conclude that the average magnetic field strength of sunspots has declined from about 2700 gauss—the average strength of Earth's field is less than 1 gauss—to about 2000 gauss. The reasons for the decrease are not clearly understood, but if the trend continues, sunspot field strength will drop to 1500 gauss by as early as 2016. Because 1500 gauss is the minimum required to produce sunspots, Livingston says, at that level they would no longer be possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sciencemag.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; astronomy; catastrophism; climate; climatechange; globalwarming; iceage; littleiceage; solaractivity; sun; sunspots
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To: The Comedian

You bet....Even Bush moved back to the city....


61 posted on 09/15/2010 12:46:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Pyro7480

How do we know this isn’t in the same league as “glaciers will melt by 2035?”

After all, no one really knows.....


62 posted on 09/15/2010 1:00:47 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: Pyro7480

Hot or cold? Hot or cold? Which is it gonna be? Sounds like mother Earth is going through menopause..........


63 posted on 09/15/2010 1:06:22 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; When a wicked man rules, the people groan.)
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To: Erasmus
Did you also lose your magnetic attraction?

Oh, I guess THAT's the problem. Also, my increase in planetary mass.

64 posted on 09/15/2010 1:25:48 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Pyro7480; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Pyro7480.
 
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65 posted on 09/15/2010 4:41:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: musicman

Wow, that’s great...


66 posted on 09/15/2010 4:46:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: The4thHorseman
Same here in Sacramento.

We can usually count on weeks of +100 temps to really enjoy our pool.  This year, we got only 5 or 6 days of really hot weather.

I jokingly told my wife I was going to rig up a solar heater and she always laughed at me.

This year she has been asking what it would cost to build and run.

Go figure.

Cheers,

knewshound

http://www.knewshound.blogspot.com/
67 posted on 09/15/2010 5:05:11 PM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: musicman

Boy it’s gonna suck being hot and cold at the same time.


68 posted on 09/15/2010 5:15:50 PM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks!


69 posted on 09/15/2010 5:27:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Impy
Muttley Laugh
70 posted on 09/15/2010 5:28:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

My pleasure.


71 posted on 09/15/2010 6:47:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Pyro7480
sn-magnetic.jpg
Weaklings. Without penumbrae, which can be seen in the yellow image, today's sunspots are weakening magnetically.
Credit: William Livingston/NSO
Long-term Evolution of Sunspot Magnetic Fields


72 posted on 09/15/2010 6:51:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, there goes 10 and 6 meter DX down the crapper. B-P BTW, during the Maunder Minimum, had their been amateur radio and other HF communications, the Maximum Usable Frequency might have been around 4000 kc (80/75 meters) or even, worse, 2000 kc (160 meters). I’m sure the late Stew Perry (1904-1990), W1BB, would love that, he was deeply into 160 meters. Long distance daytime DX communications would not exist and you would have to wait until nightfall to communicate long distances.


73 posted on 09/15/2010 9:44:11 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Lazamataz
This is not good. By 2026, famine may be widespread.

Dang, I feel humbled since I was only concerned about the affect this will have on amateur radio and shortwave radio. B-P
74 posted on 09/15/2010 9:46:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: knews_hound

Well howdy fellow Sacramentan!

We’ve got solar for our pool and it’s still not warm enough for what I consider optimum swimming temperature (84 degrees—yes, I’m a wimp).

Funny that when I was a kid I remember making fun of an older cousin who wouldn’t swim until the pool was 80; now I consider that a little on the cold side. Ah the joys of getting older! :-)


75 posted on 09/16/2010 8:24:31 AM PDT by The4thHorseman
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To: The4thHorseman

Instead of heating the pool, get a short sleeve or sleeve less 3mm wetsuit, you will be surprised how comfortable it makes it.


76 posted on 09/16/2010 1:48:24 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very important report. I believe this finding explains White House panic:

White House Science Czar: “’Global Warming’ is a Dangerous Misnomer”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2590115/posts
[Cool down the “warming” con and shift to “climate change” con.]


77 posted on 09/17/2010 5:41:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (GOP Elites: Phony Buckley Doctrine for McCain, but trash O'Donnell.)
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To: mbynack

“Everyone knows that SUVs warm the earth, not the sun.”

Actually, SUV’s warm the sun, which then warms the earth. The physical mechanism is a little unclear—but scientists have proven by consensus that American excess is the very powerful sixth force in nature. IT’s actually one of the six fundamental forces of the universe and binds quarks to higgs bosons at nanoscales. So that probably has something to do with it. Those SUV suckers are just loaded with quarks and bosons.


78 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:59 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: The Comedian

“Any chance we can tax our way out of the 2012 galactic alignment?”

Zero says we can tax and spend our way out of anything. Just look at the jobs saved. Slagging the alignment should be pippyshit compared to rolling back the seas, don’t you think?


79 posted on 09/17/2010 11:09:33 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Sounds like “String Theory”. Everything is connected.


80 posted on 09/17/2010 11:11:06 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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