Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Retirement Fund Trillions Lure Government Grabbers (Obama coming after your 401k and IRA after all)
american thinker ^ | 9/14/10 | Peter Raymond

Posted on 09/14/2010 5:42:35 AM PDT by bestintxas

Is the government making plans to confiscate your retirement money? The Obama administration is certainly exploring the idea.

This question no longer seems far-fetched when the group-thinkers in Washington unabashedly promote a doctrine of wealth redistribution and central planning. These Keynesian socialists know they will need vast new sources of revenues to fund their relentless spending binges to "transform" this nation. A logical next step would be to legitimize the confiscation of private retirement assets; an idea that was contemplated in the recent past by the Clinton administration.

According to the Investment Company Institute, there was $7.835 trillion in IRA, 401K, 457, and 403b accounts in 2009. That is certainly too large a sum to be ignored by the big spending social engineers in Washington. Bureaucrats and politicians have been hard at work formulating a social justice excuse to legislate an historic seizure of private assets. This would not be the first time the statists extorted wealth from US citizens on a massive scale.

The public shakedown always employs a two step tactic to repeatedly dupe the malleable electorate. First, the statists fabricate and incessantly excoriate a contrived crisis of social injustice that is victimizing helpless and unknowing Americans. Next, they "craft"; a term Pelosi uses again and again, insidious legislation disguised as a necessary and compassionate solution that makes participation and universal funding compulsory by force of the law.

It is a simple and effective strategy that continues to trip up even the staunchest conservatives who ultimately succumb to the throng of propagandized constituents demanding

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; bhofascism; bustunions; communism; congress; corruption; cw2; democratcorruption; democrats; economy; fail; fundingtheunions; liberalfascism; lping; obama; pensions; redistribution; socialism; spreadthewealth; stealthwealth; unions
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-187 next last
To: Bean Counter

Maybe that’s the point.
The financial crisis that this would trigger would be devastating to the economy.

These folks are just looking for the next catastrophe in order to justify seizing more power.


21 posted on 09/14/2010 5:55:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Bean Counter

Watch China and Russia threaten us with nukes to pay them back with our IRAs, +- a Koran or Little Red book burning day, and democrates will have their cop out to blame us and have us denounced in the media instead of defending what is right.

With gay rights in the military, the US military will be a nice little additional faggy trotzkist socialist whore house, making sure it turns into the new lawyer based “clearing house” of relations between the people and the taxpayers and slaves... caching... death death death


22 posted on 09/14/2010 5:56:21 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA
Wasn't the same said before the passage of 0bamaCare?

the combined Tyranny will eventually reach a tipping point...

the midterm elections could reverse that trend if one or both houses flip.

23 posted on 09/14/2010 5:56:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: vanilla swirl

Let’s say the Dems do try this in the Lame Duck Session. They have nothing to lose, since they lost their seats, and retribution to punish the people for voting them out of power is high on their list of priorities.

What can we do?

What will we do?..................


24 posted on 09/14/2010 5:56:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Gasshog

That was my first thought as well.


25 posted on 09/14/2010 5:58:09 AM PDT by sarasota
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: old curmudgeon

“They have to be sold if the gummi wants the cash.”

These are the same folks who took over GM. Closed thousands of dealerships, mostly those owned by political opponents. Canceled ownership of bond holders. And then wrote a blank check to bail out the nationalized company. Oh and they put a guy in charge of it who was 30 some years old, no degree, and no experience in the auto industry.

Do you really think they can’t find a way to liquidate all that $$? Especially since such action would devastate our economy which is their ultimate goal.


26 posted on 09/14/2010 5:58:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA
Wasn't the same said before the passage of 0bamaCare?

I am surprised that we haven't seen open rebellion yet. I often feel that Obama is pushing for that. He wants to break things. He wants to upset people. If some old white guys start firing guns, Obama would probably be thrilled to seize emergency powers and start making some serious changes.

I say bring it on.

27 posted on 09/14/2010 5:59:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

That will start an insurrection like the world has never seen.

Our bloodiest war we fought against ourselves.

It CAN happen again.......................


28 posted on 09/14/2010 6:00:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

“Let’s say the Dems do try this in the Lame Duck Session. They have nothing to lose, since they lost their seats, and retribution to punish the people for voting them out of power is high on their list of priorities.”

Don’t forget that there are RINOs out there like Loser Murkowski and Bennett who fit that definition.

They could easily side withe Dems to punish the small people who voted them out.


29 posted on 09/14/2010 6:00:44 AM PDT by bestintxas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

The window has pretty much shut on 0 being able to do this. While he had huge majorities in congress....maybe. But after Nov. 2 it won’t be possible unless he makes a move to ram it through the lame duck congress. I don’t see that happening because the groundwork, the massive propaganda camkpaign to justify it, hasn’t been done yet.


30 posted on 09/14/2010 6:02:59 AM PDT by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

How many different ways can these bastards steal from us, before they are removed from the equation?

Like many, I just want to be left alone.


31 posted on 09/14/2010 6:03:41 AM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

I have no doubt that the politicians see the pension and retirement funds as a big pile of cash that's just "sitting there," ripe for the taking. And for those who have IRA CDs, they're sort of correct. But the vast majority of those funds are actually invested in stocks and other securities. In order for the government to steal that money, they would first have to sell those securities on the open market, which would crash the stock market. Who would buy those securities if they know that the government were taking the money?

I suppose that the government could just write IOUs to the companies and tell them that they're the new owner, but again, it would destroy the stock market, and the economy along with it. But then, I guess that's the idea here. Make the USA a "workers paradise" like Cambodia or Cuba.

I guess I'm just not educated enough to ignore the probable consequences of these idiotic actions.

Mark

32 posted on 09/14/2010 6:04:19 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gasshog

And the penalties are huge when looked at in total. There’s the 10 percent standard penalty, but when you add the amount you withdraw from the 401K, that boosts your income, so your regular income is taxed at a higher level too. (these rules apply to the normal joe there are some exceptions for older folks.)


33 posted on 09/14/2010 6:05:24 AM PDT by dawn53
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

They better hurry up. If they remain in power there will be nothing left to grab.


34 posted on 09/14/2010 6:05:34 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

It would be a bloodbath.

One thing I learned years ago: Do not mess with people’s money.

They will stand still for every manner of insult, but mess with their overtime, their pay, their money in any way, and you have a revolt.


35 posted on 09/14/2010 6:05:34 AM PDT by OpusatFR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA
Wasn't the same said before the passage of 0bamaCare?

Nope.

36 posted on 09/14/2010 6:06:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
5 years ago, I'd have said "Yeah, right. Never happen."

Now, I'm not so sure.

I *do* think that if this comes to pass, that there will be a long line of pols hanging from lampposts.

37 posted on 09/14/2010 6:07:15 AM PDT by wbill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
They cannot. Even in the lame duck session we still have the filibuster.
38 posted on 09/14/2010 6:07:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie

No, I dont think so. The thugs in washington have become so powerful, the american public will have no choice but to go along with it. Oh, we will scream and shout, but they will do it anyway. They have nothing to fear I’m afraid.


39 posted on 09/14/2010 6:09:21 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Also, the balance of said annuity will not be allowed to be willed to your dependents.

You will save all your life, die, and the only beneficiary will be the USG and some crack smoking baby mill whore popping out government dependents for 20 years.

If this happens, there will be blood for sure.


40 posted on 09/14/2010 6:10:06 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-187 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson