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To: Elsie

If I were looking for a church, I’d be very much inclined to look into the Mormon brand of Christianity based soley on the lowlife type of people on this forum who lie about, distort it and ridicule it.


348 posted on 08/29/2010 9:17:15 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
If I were looking for a church, I’d be very much inclined to look into the Mormon brand of Christianity based soley on the lowlife type of people on this forum who lie about, distort it and ridicule it.

Well then; an investigator of TRUTH such as yourself will be quite able to POINT OUT any...

LIES and DISTORTIONS these foul lowlifes have typed - RIGHT?

356 posted on 08/29/2010 9:26:02 PM PDT by Elsie
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If I were looking for a church, I’d be very much inclined to look into the Mormon brand of Christianity based soley on the lowlife type of people on this forum who lie about, distort it and ridicule it.

Hey, on the one hand, Mormons who came & assisted you with your garden was good solid neighbors helping neighbors theology -- the kind that will impress you.

But if you're forever going to judge what people have done on the surface and never look under the hood...and I've never seen you be specific on correcting exactly what is supposedly a "lie" or a "distortion" -- which means you simply in engage in shotgun accusations (what? didn't your parents...perhaps RC? ever tell you that if you're going to launch into shotgun accusations to be a bit more specific?)

If people, seemingly good people, came & helped me with a key yard project. And then I found out later that they believed their good deeds landed them into godhood status, I'd wonder what their true motivation was for their good deeds. Was it some boomerang kickback where they get divine brownie points?

Listen. Anybody who's auditioning for godhood is going to be on their best outward behavior -- and that includes being a seeming good neighbor.

Jesus Christ highly complimented the outward behavior of the Pharisees by saying that unless somebody's outward righteousness exceeded their's, they would "in no wise inherit the kingdom of heaven." (see Matthew 5:20) Vigilante, you've done what Jesus did: He complimented the outward behavior of the legalists of His day.

But there you stop; whereas Jesus went on and described the inward nature of these legalists. He described them as whitewashed sepulcres (tombstones):

Allow me to quote Jesus directly: You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. (Matthew 23:25-27)

364 posted on 08/30/2010 12:35:12 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Vigilanteman; Elsie

If I were looking for a church, I’d be very much inclined to look into the Mormon brand of Christianity
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Nope it aint there...

You wont find much...


369 posted on 08/30/2010 12:54:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Vigilanteman
WHERE ARE THESE LIES?

Show them to us...

Enlighten us low lifes with your brilliance!

382 posted on 08/30/2010 3:47:54 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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I will make it easy for you. You accuse Elsie of lies and distortions yet he posts DIRECTLY from and takes the ideas from LDS doctrine.

So here is your chance to put up.

Show where the following are LIES...

“He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be.”
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

“You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god...”
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

“If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]”
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is “no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God”
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

“I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, “Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;” if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again.”
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

“It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,”
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

If you know ANYTHING about true historic Christian beliefs you know that these run contrary to everything we believe and therefore PROVE that the LDS is not Christian.

However if these are lies and distortions PROVE it...

Here is your chance to shut us low lifes up!

383 posted on 08/30/2010 3:57:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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