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EPA's Gun Control
IBD Editorials ^ | August 26, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff

Posted on 08/26/2010 5:32:42 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: FreedomPoster

Local dive shop..... Some still have old cast weights for belts vs new weight bags for BC’s....


41 posted on 08/26/2010 7:27:32 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Kaslin
There are a couple of problems, the first being that when Congress passed the law it specifically exempted ammunition. So what the EPA proposes to do is illegal. The second is that there is no scientific basis for restricting lead ammunition on the basis of protecting the health of humans or wildlife.

So? When have trivial loopholes like that stopped liberals, especially after The One has declared, "yes, we can"?

42 posted on 08/26/2010 7:31:26 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: BCR #226
We will come for you in the worst way through the courts.

(Maybe)

43 posted on 08/26/2010 7:39:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

No maybe about it. There are those of us who were waiting for a case like McDonald. We’ll bankrupt the enemy if that’s what it takes. We’re tired of these people infringing on our rights with impunity. Now, they are going to risk something.


44 posted on 08/26/2010 7:46:39 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Mr. Wright
We may be secure in our 2nd Amendment rights but but the Left will try other avenues to try to end the intent of number two. Ban certain metals. Ban certain chemicals. Ban certain domestic policies. Do any thing to make gun ownership difficult.

Decades ago many states had Poll Tax which was designed to make voting difficult, but Poll Tax has been declared unconstitutional. So should all of the above be unconstitutional.

45 posted on 08/26/2010 7:50:36 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: BCR #226

Not what I was (maybe)-ing about.


46 posted on 08/26/2010 7:55:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: FreedomPoster; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; Squantos
You can't post The Army Times.

Temperature issues arise for lead-free slug

The 62-grain bullet for the new M855A1 ammo is a completely new design. While it may appear to have a plastic “ballistic tip”, that’s deceiving. The new bullet created for M855A1 ammo has a bismuth-tin alloy core with a steel “stacked-cone” penetrating tip. The photo at right shows the version from last year; the final production version may be slightly different (e.g. the final version tip is a different color). Apparently the latest bullet design is a winner. During testing, M855A1 ammo performed better than current 7.62mm ball ammunition against certain types of targets.

Hard target penetration is supposed to be better than the lead-core M855. I just hope it is effective in combat and not just adopted because these days lead bullets are considered by some to be politically incorrect.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/07/02/u-s-army-issues-new-green-m855a1-ammo/

47 posted on 08/26/2010 8:32:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Lazamataz

???


48 posted on 08/26/2010 8:38:14 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: JPG

We have to pressure the next Republican president, house and senate to hamstring the power of the EPA. We need to FORCE the Republicans to limit the EPAs role to an advisory capacity to the Legislature. Make it so the EPA can perform studies and make recommendations, but has no power to pass rules. None.

On the same topic, we need to bombard the new Republican majorities to eliminate useless, expensive agencies like the Department of Education. We should make a list.


49 posted on 08/26/2010 9:27:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: depressed in 06

I like the sound of that. The states all have their own environmental agencies. We should push the coming Republican majorities to simply disband the federal EPA.

I like it.

At the very least, reduce it to an advisory capacity only. Of course, if you leave it with that, the Democrats could restore power. I like the idea of dismantling it and letting the states monitor their own environmental rules. Nobody is going to be polluting their lakes and rivers again.


50 posted on 08/26/2010 9:30:08 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: depressed in 06

Get rid of Fed OSHA while we are at it, and let the states deal with worker safety.


51 posted on 08/26/2010 9:30:44 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: BCR #226; Lazamataz

You will bankrupt the Fed EPA? You mean the one that is bankrolled by the $13 trillion national debt? In a pigs eye.


52 posted on 08/26/2010 9:34:48 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Don’t know much about 1983 suits do you? The Government cannot bankroll the defense. It’s a personal lawsuit against the person, not the Government. They aren’t protected under statute and are actually prohibited from being protected when it’s a civil rights suit.


53 posted on 08/26/2010 10:37:07 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

No, I am not a lawyer. Explain it to me.

How can you personally sue the Director of the US EPA? I’m all ears. Under what statue? What damages do you claim? What immunity does she have? What authority does she have? Who decides all these questions before the Supreme Court eventually takes up the case? How does Congressional oversight play into the issue.

Please explain. I’m all ears.

You see, I would love to sue the Director of the California Air Resource Board into personal bankruptcy. Go ahead, show me how it is done.


54 posted on 08/26/2010 10:58:47 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I’ll look up the exact code tomorrow for you... it’s 2 am here now.

But, in a nutshell, the McDonald case made the 2nd Amendment a fundamental right. This is a step above a simple civil right.

Under 1983 statutes a person engaged in the violation of a persons civil rights may not use government compensation if they are personally sued for these acts. This applies even if the person is making the alleged violations in the scope of their job.

This all stems from the civil rights acts that were passed through in the 60’s. Basically, liberal law is now being used against the liberals.

A suit must meet certain criteria to be considered a 1983 suit. You can bring any suit forward under 1983 auspices but the suit must address an infringement upon a legally recognized civil or fundamental right. Prior to the McDonald case this year, we didn’t have a leg to stand on. Now however, the game has changed.

I’m beat, I’m crashing. I’ll look the code up for you in the morning. Until then, have a great evening.


55 posted on 08/26/2010 11:13:11 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Fee; BCR #226
You are a rare freeper/conservative who advocates using the courts (something many conservatives loathe) to fight liberals.

Wouldn't it be awesome if a bunch of conservatives up and sued every liberal NGO (think: Southern Poverty Law Center, ACLU, NAACP, NARAL, Greenpeace, Lambda Legal) that has used the law to harass conservatives, property owners, or any other "outgroup" in the last 10 years, and just pushed a tsunami of litigation at them?

Turn about is fair play.

56 posted on 08/27/2010 12:32:07 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: piytar
In other words, if they try this, it will be lawsuit time. A slam dunk lawsuit, at that.

And maybe the lawsuit shouldn't be confined to injunctive relief, cease & desist orders, etc. Maybe it would be time for some "official oppression" or "oppression under color of authority", which is always good enough for cowtown sheriffs accused of harassing fine, upstanding drug dealers of color. Maybe it might be time for some heavy-duty, universe-class payback for all the left-wing barratry of the last 60 years?

57 posted on 08/27/2010 12:36:42 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: BCR #226
I prefer tungsten with a copper jacket.

Wonder what you'd get if you alloyed tungsten with vanadium and titanium, to harden it?

Would that be "Krell metal" of the old sci-fi movie?

58 posted on 08/27/2010 12:39:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
we need to bombard the new Republican majorities to eliminate useless, expensive agencies like the Department of Education. We should make a list.

Okay, let's start here:

That should at least start the discussion.

59 posted on 08/27/2010 12:51:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

It’s all about sectional density, lighter bullets in proportion to physical size don’t retain enough energy. You may be able to push them faster but they slow down faster too, Without sustained velocity you get a trajectory shaped like a rainbow and accuracy is a guessing game. The current non-lead .22 ammo is 50 yard plinking ammo only.


60 posted on 08/27/2010 1:04:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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