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US Special Ops Use New Belgian Rifle in Afghan War [FN SCAR]
ABC News ^ | 20 AUG 2010 | SLOBODAN LEKIC

Posted on 08/25/2010 7:55:57 PM PDT by smokingfrog

An unconventional Belgian assault rifle is emerging as the favorite of U.S. special operations forces looking for more firepower to turn the tide in Afghanistan.

The Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle — also known as SCAR — is intended redress the shortcomings of the M-4, an updated version of the M-16 which has been in service since the mid-1960s.

The U.S. military's workhorse rifle did well in Iraq, where much of the fighting was in urban settings. But its light rounds have underperformed in Afghanistan, where the Taliban tend to rely on deadly long-range fire.

An Army study found that the M-4s 5.56mm bullets don't retain enough velocity beyond 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. NATO commanders say U.S. firepower cannot always respond adequately to Taliban sharpshooters firing from 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters).

The SCAR, manufactured by Belgian gunmaker FN Herstal, fulfills a specific special operations forces requirement for an easily modifiable rifle that to be used for both urban combat and for extended-distance shooting.

This called for a unique modular system accommodating not just the two main Western rifle calibers — the L-model for the light 5.56mm rounds and H-model for the heavier-hitting 7.62mm rounds — but also barrels of lengths in both calibers.

Many of the components can be interchanged between the two models. Both versions also allow soldiers to quickly replace their barrels to deal with a changing tactical situation.

Martin Fackler, a U.S. ballistics expert, said the SCAR-H round enjoys a clear advantage at long distances because the lighter 5.56mm bullets slow down significantly after about 400 meters (yards), sharply reducing their ability to inflict serious damage to the target.

"(In contrast) at 1,000 yards the 7.62 bullet is still traveling at over the speed of sound," Fackler said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; scar
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To: 1rudeboy

Well I bit, I thought you were one of those trolls. So you got a laugh out of me when you confessed to tweaking them.


21 posted on 08/25/2010 8:26:58 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: smokingfrog
Agreed. Beats the heck outta my 12 lbs. varmint AR (5.56) in more ways than one.
22 posted on 08/25/2010 8:31:38 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Frantzie

It has all the nice features.

I wonder how reliable they are?


23 posted on 08/25/2010 8:32:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have read quite a few reviews of DSA rifles and they are very good. I want one of their STG 58 Austrian FALs. It has new American barrels and I think Steyr receivers.


24 posted on 08/25/2010 8:36:18 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

12 lb.!

You got a vehicle mount for that thing?


25 posted on 08/25/2010 8:36:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: golux
Looks beautiful, but ...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. Maybe it’s my age, or just me, but all these modern short “assault rifles” look like something that fell off the bottom of a truck to me.
Very effective though, I guess.
26 posted on 08/25/2010 8:37:20 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: nomad

AR-10


27 posted on 08/25/2010 8:39:05 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: smokingfrog
24" SS bull barrel is the culprit. Hence the bipod and a tactical gun case with sling (not shown). It's a tack driver out to 300m.


28 posted on 08/25/2010 8:47:40 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Thank you for you and your family’s long service record. I agree with you in that a good bit of wood never hurt a rifle! I have always been partial to 30-06, 30-30 and especially, especially... .303 loads on fast sequences in the old SMLE bolt-actions... Then again, I am younger, stupider, and I never had as much time at the civilian range as you, so I like a BIG kick!


29 posted on 08/25/2010 8:50:34 PM PDT by golux
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To: smokingfrog

So we are back to a variant (seems inferior in bbl length) of the M14/M1A? This is not new. It is like getting rid of 0bamacare!!!


30 posted on 08/25/2010 8:59:55 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: mountn man

Thats it! Been to alot of sites and seen plenty awesome toys that I sure as hell can`t afford, real pity.


31 posted on 08/25/2010 9:07:35 PM PDT by nomad
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Size matters :)

32 posted on 08/25/2010 9:13:36 PM PDT by fretzer
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Can I play?

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33 posted on 08/25/2010 9:19:03 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: labette

The M14 was born.
~~~
Still the best Battle Rifle there is IMHO,,,

Go prone in a sandy area and never missed a beat,,,

1500 yard reach,,,

Cuts a .308 hole down through the bushes and trees,,,

Yes,,,It’s heavy and the ammo is heavy,,,

Big Boy Gun...;0)


34 posted on 08/25/2010 9:22:36 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Looks like a really weak and vulnerable bipod arrangment to me....too many little frickin’ set-screws, coat-hanger wires and wingnuts that would bust up in a hurry.....and what are those, little push-on rubber feet? Nice touch in the photo, by the way.....in a basement on carpets..... about the only place it would be reliable.


35 posted on 08/25/2010 9:42:20 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: nomad

http://thedisease.net/?ejaculate=library&your_poison=Firearms%20Schematics

Page down to the model 59 schematic and click link.


36 posted on 08/25/2010 9:51:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: 1rudeboy

Me, too, even in semi-auto.


37 posted on 08/25/2010 10:00:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: OnTheDress
No, but I can

M14

38 posted on 08/25/2010 10:50:54 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: smokingfrog
Interesting article. Except for the fact that the caliber du jour is now the .338 LaPua mag.

Its the current heart-breaker and life taker in the Afghan battle box.
39 posted on 08/25/2010 11:13:01 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: smokingfrog

Ma’chelle’s boys shootin’ for lobstah & buttah
do we have a winnah?


40 posted on 08/26/2010 12:39:12 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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