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First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?
Life Site News ^ | NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 | Commentary by John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII

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To: Darksheare

Sorry, it’s not a logical extension. By your reasoning, we couldn’t “oppress” thieves and murderers either.

What distinguishes queers and mormons from, say, pedophiles, islamofascist-goathumpers, mashers, and muggers, is that in the former, consent is freely given between adult parties. In the latter, consent is lacking by at least one party, that is, a party to the act is being victimized, beit the underaged, the goat, the raped,or the person robbed.

Now in the latter, the civil rights of the victims has been abused, and in the case of the goat, well, that’s just animal cruelty. The perpetrators are open
game for “oppression” by state, and rightly so.


141 posted on 08/14/2010 6:56:36 AM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: Sandy01
I believe we are reacting as the people did around the lady caught in adultry.

Did Jesus tell her that he'd legalize adultery? Or did He tell her "Go and sin no more"?

142 posted on 08/14/2010 6:56:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: onyx

Mem I have never heard of that gender.

/kidding at your typo


143 posted on 08/14/2010 6:56:41 AM PDT by Global2010 (Congratulations to Dware for the FR Mussel Eating Fundraiser.)
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To: InternetTuffGuy; Sandy01

Take it up with the one who wants gays to marry.
Sandy01 said that not letting them marry is oppressing gays.
Following that to its logical end, you would have to allow people to marry their pets or multipple eives and husbands.
Following your previous example of consenting adults, you’d have to allow for bigamy and polygamy.


144 posted on 08/14/2010 6:58:27 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Bingo!

Thank you for the clarity!


145 posted on 08/14/2010 6:59:20 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And that goes for fornicators too.

Folks seem to forget that “hetro” sex outside of marraige is also not good for ones soul.

But is seems to be glanced over IMHO.


146 posted on 08/14/2010 6:59:34 AM PDT by Global2010 (Congratulations to Dware for the FR Mussel Eating Fundraiser.)
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To: RFEngineer

“Limit government, limit the scourges that government enables.”

Absolutely. Limit the govt and the people can associate or not as they please. That solves a LOT of problems that don’t need to be problems in the first place if the govt didn’t stick its huge, ignorant head where it doesn’t belong.


147 posted on 08/14/2010 6:59:39 AM PDT by paulycy (Restore Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Darksheare

It is oppressing them. It is denying them rights based on what one group of people, christians, think is a sin.
Now, I have not called you names, yet you call me a liar? And I should get kicked off?
I have not used any scripture. I have simply relayed how Jesus behaved toward pharisees and sinners. I am the liar?
I am the name caller? Hey dude, I am at total peace with this issue. I know I will not hurl any stones at any sinner...not in my condition. When I can sop sinning, I will throw stones


148 posted on 08/14/2010 6:59:49 AM PDT by Sandy01
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To: InternetTuffGuy

Homosexuals are not being denied their rights. They have the SAME rights that I do, to marry anyone of the opposite sex. What they want are SPECIAL rights based on a behavior. That’s not a civil rights claim.


149 posted on 08/14/2010 7:00:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Sandy01
Homosexuals are NOT being denied rights.
And you ARE a liar.
"I am not gay and I am not pushing homosexuality."
Then you IMMEDIATELY turn around and say that gays are being oppressed.
Funny, I don't know of any groups of gays that were ensleaved in the southern cotton fields.
I don't know of any groups of gays that were forced to build the pyramids in Egypt, or stomp mud into bricks, etc etc etc.
Go show me real oppresion.
150 posted on 08/14/2010 7:03:17 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Some posters are focusing on the emotion instead of reality and fact.


151 posted on 08/14/2010 7:03:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Sandy01

If you’re at peace with this issue, why are you making such a big deal of it? When I’m at peace with something people are arguing about, I laugh at them, move on and don’t waste the energy.


152 posted on 08/14/2010 7:04:03 AM PDT by pops88
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To: Global2010
Folks seem to forget that “hetro” sex outside of marraige is also not good for ones soul.

Are they demanding special rights too?

153 posted on 08/14/2010 7:04:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Darksheare

Whatever...you simply have too hard of a heart to see the broken part of humanity that are the gays. I am broken, albiet in different ways than gays are. The alcoholic is broken, the liar is broken, the coveter is broken, the idolator is broken......we all are broken. But, only gays are singled out and punished. I just don’t see that helping them ever come to Christ. I think we are repelling lost souls by fighting against them. Jesus treated lepers as equals, prostitutes as equal, tax cheats as equals. That is how he won so many. I’m just saying.......


154 posted on 08/14/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by Sandy01
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To: Jim Noble

Our political system is efficient in that the political leadership generally reflects the underlying values of the populace.

We as social conservatives are for the nost part wasting our time and resources with the political process. At a certain point you call it the second dark ages, acknowledge that the end results are predictable, and strategize accordingly.


155 posted on 08/14/2010 7:04:47 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: shattered

Even conservatives don’t agree on everything. There is still room for healthy debate..and honestly, I believe that it is healthy to see and hear others viewpoints


I have no problem with the FReepers who disagree with me because I support Prop 8 and the courts overturning an election....my problem is with people like Beck, Coulter, and Rush...who have spent a lifetime pitching to conservatives....yet are not really conservative....and have dumped conservatism based on what (I believe) people at MS Fox News and the GOP have told them to do


156 posted on 08/14/2010 7:05:13 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: pops88

Because I am concerned about divisions at a time when we need unity. I am not at peace with that pops;p


157 posted on 08/14/2010 7:05:30 AM PDT by Sandy01
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To: Sandy01

LOL.
This from the person who is calling evil good.


158 posted on 08/14/2010 7:05:42 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: lady lawyer

Only a fool would embrace sin.

I am aware of gay couples in my community.

And honestly I don’t embrace their life but I do respect them as fellow humans.

What I do notice is some of them are very good hearted God loving individuals and others are just plain dumb assess without much depth and don’t have a clue but are here trying to function by only the grace of God.

And this would be true even if you removed the Gay label.


159 posted on 08/14/2010 7:06:06 AM PDT by Global2010 (Congratulations to Dware for the FR Mussel Eating Fundraiser.)
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To: Sandy01; Darksheare
.you simply have too hard of a heart to see the broken part of humanity that are the gays.

No lady, you do. My brother is gay. I have seen the lifestyle up close and personal. It is deadly. Giving them special rights will not stop their sin nor save them from torment in this life or the next.

160 posted on 08/14/2010 7:07:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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